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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6805444" data-attributes="member: 5834">The +1d4 from bless is extremely helpful when  using the -5/-10 feats. I have yet to play a game where a few of the players did not take those feats. My players are min-maxers. We have played multiple campaigns and not one has failed to have a -5/+10 feat user. Our first campaign was Great Weapon Master, every other campaign has been one or more people with Sharpshooter. Bless is quite powerful in conjunction with those feats as we have discussed in many previous threads.As far as spiritual weapon goes, why not cast spell and spiritual weapon? Then you get a boost to hit with your spiritual weapon. Then again spiritual weapon isn't as great as it appears to be. I've found moving it around a combat field often leaves it inactive for a round or two nearly every battle. Using your bonus action for something like healing word or another sell often comes up meaning you wasted a slot on a spell you don't get to use very much. When I first made my cleric, I thought spiritual weapon was great. Then I started using it in battle and found many times that it wasn't as useful as I thought it would be. Creatures move around a lot. It's almost useless in ranged battles, against flying creatures, or creatures that move a lot like Legendary Creatures. It was pretty nifty when I could wail away. That was pretty rare as the group's cleric.Spiritual Guardians is awesome when it works. That's a fun spell. It is also a spell that competes with other spells and requires you move into combat range. Often creatures consider it a priority to end the spell and end up directing a lot of attacks at the cleric. That can be very painful. It's not often a great strategy to have the cleric paint himself with a big old "kill me" sign.One of the other nice features of bless is it isn't visible. You don't have to move to keep it active once it is cast. It takes no action to continue. It boosts other spells you might use like resonating bolt or your melee attack. Enemies don't have to stay in visible range. In general, it's very hard to justify using a 3rd level spell to dispel a first level spell that is difficult to see the effect of.</blockquote>

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