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<blockquote data-quote="Advilaar" data-source="post: 7532788" data-attributes="member: 6698911"><p>I know how 4e is considered, but I wanted to touch more about how I think residuum and disenchantment is a GREAT idea, and I am not sure why they did not keep it going into 5th.</p><p></p><p>How many times, particularly in 2e or 3e or 5e did you run into a cool treasure like magic stuff you could not use? </p><p></p><p>PC Paladin: "Great! That was a tough fight versus the Evil Cleric and his cult. What does evil bad guy have for loot"?</p><p>PC Wizard: "I go through my detect magic/ curse/ identify routine"</p><p></p><p>DM: "Well, the plate is +3 full plate, necrotic resist."</p><p></p><p>PC Paladin: "Whoot! Beats my stuff! Upgrade tiiiime! Can I wear it"?</p><p>PC Fighter: "Hey, I could use some Plate, too. This +1 chain mail is looking kind of worn..."</p><p></p><p>DM: (feeling generous, but not too generous) "Well, with a good armorsmith's services you could probably do alterations. You know, when they make armor like plate, they custom fit them to the wearer. But there is a problem..."</p><p>PCs: "Huh?"</p><p>DM: "The evil battle cleric that wore it worshiped BIG EVIL EMO DEATH GOD. It's got skull pauldrons, a big emblazoned I LOVE B.E.E.D.G. symbol on the chest, and matching skull knee caps. If you wear it, you'll be stigmatized wherever you go..."</p><p>PCs: "well... bummer"</p><p>PC Rogue: "party loot (sigh)...Guess it goes in the bag of holding/ vault/ pawned off on some Temple of Goodie-Goodieness for disposal or whatever...."</p><p></p><p>BETTER.....</p><p></p><p>PC Wizard: "Hey... this gaudy plate that screams Evil Emo God Fanboy? I might get a few bags of residuum out of it. After all, Mr. Paladin, couldn't you use a ring of necrotic resist when we go after that undead shadow dragon who is behind it all next month? With the dark residuum from that, I could craft us a few rings with the help of a master jeweler! I have tool proficiency : enchanting and the level 2 Disenchant ritual! "</p><p></p><p>PC Rogue: "Awesome... Hey, DM, do I know any jewelers? My background says I was a fence"</p><p>DM rolls some dice...</p><p></p><p>DM: "Yes... you do. She lives in a statue garden in the undermarket. You have never seen her face, only a door with a slit to exchange money and items. They say the statues are of customers that never paid...."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Advilaar, post: 7532788, member: 6698911"] I know how 4e is considered, but I wanted to touch more about how I think residuum and disenchantment is a GREAT idea, and I am not sure why they did not keep it going into 5th. How many times, particularly in 2e or 3e or 5e did you run into a cool treasure like magic stuff you could not use? PC Paladin: "Great! That was a tough fight versus the Evil Cleric and his cult. What does evil bad guy have for loot"? PC Wizard: "I go through my detect magic/ curse/ identify routine" DM: "Well, the plate is +3 full plate, necrotic resist." PC Paladin: "Whoot! Beats my stuff! Upgrade tiiiime! Can I wear it"? PC Fighter: "Hey, I could use some Plate, too. This +1 chain mail is looking kind of worn..." DM: (feeling generous, but not too generous) "Well, with a good armorsmith's services you could probably do alterations. You know, when they make armor like plate, they custom fit them to the wearer. But there is a problem..." PCs: "Huh?" DM: "The evil battle cleric that wore it worshiped BIG EVIL EMO DEATH GOD. It's got skull pauldrons, a big emblazoned I LOVE B.E.E.D.G. symbol on the chest, and matching skull knee caps. If you wear it, you'll be stigmatized wherever you go..." PCs: "well... bummer" PC Rogue: "party loot (sigh)...Guess it goes in the bag of holding/ vault/ pawned off on some Temple of Goodie-Goodieness for disposal or whatever...." BETTER..... PC Wizard: "Hey... this gaudy plate that screams Evil Emo God Fanboy? I might get a few bags of residuum out of it. After all, Mr. Paladin, couldn't you use a ring of necrotic resist when we go after that undead shadow dragon who is behind it all next month? With the dark residuum from that, I could craft us a few rings with the help of a master jeweler! I have tool proficiency : enchanting and the level 2 Disenchant ritual! " PC Rogue: "Awesome... Hey, DM, do I know any jewelers? My background says I was a fence" DM rolls some dice... DM: "Yes... you do. She lives in a statue garden in the undermarket. You have never seen her face, only a door with a slit to exchange money and items. They say the statues are of customers that never paid...." [/QUOTE]
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