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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7921539" data-attributes="member: 6966824"><p>You don't know its location if it is hidden from you, in which case the passage you quoted kicks in. But it has to have taken the hide action to become hidden.</p><p></p><p>In that same section it also says, "If you are hidden — both unseen and unheard — when you make an attack, you give away your location when the attack hits or misses."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, because there are senses other than sight. If it makes a stealth check that beats your passive perception (at disadvantage), then you don't know it's there. But once it attacks, it reveals its position.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand that this is how your DM ran it, but RAW its location is only unknown if it has taken the hide action, and once it attacks it reveals its position, including after it moves, until it hides again.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Taking the hide action mostly <em>is</em> about trying to be quiet; in order to take the action in the first place you already have to be out of sight (heavily obscured, invisible, behind total cover, facing a blinded foe, or having some feature that lets you hide in other contexts, such as Mask of the Wild, the Skulker feat, or similar).</p><p></p><p>I think the case that an invisible stalker ought to be able to hide as a bonus action is entirely reasonable, but some creatures were given that ability and it wasn't. So make of that what you will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7921539, member: 6966824"] You don't know its location if it is hidden from you, in which case the passage you quoted kicks in. But it has to have taken the hide action to become hidden. In that same section it also says, "If you are hidden — both unseen and unheard — when you make an attack, you give away your location when the attack hits or misses." Yes, because there are senses other than sight. If it makes a stealth check that beats your passive perception (at disadvantage), then you don't know it's there. But once it attacks, it reveals its position. I understand that this is how your DM ran it, but RAW its location is only unknown if it has taken the hide action, and once it attacks it reveals its position, including after it moves, until it hides again. Taking the hide action mostly [I]is[/I] about trying to be quiet; in order to take the action in the first place you already have to be out of sight (heavily obscured, invisible, behind total cover, facing a blinded foe, or having some feature that lets you hide in other contexts, such as Mask of the Wild, the Skulker feat, or similar). I think the case that an invisible stalker ought to be able to hide as a bonus action is entirely reasonable, but some creatures were given that ability and it wasn't. So make of that what you will. [/QUOTE]
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