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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8227046" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>It would also mean that you could target them normally with spells and many special abilities, make opportunity attacks vs them, and take the dodge action against them etc.</p><p></p><p>Here are the PHB spells (alone) that require you to be able to see your target:</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Level</th><th>Spell</th></tr><tr><td>0</td><td>Acid Splash</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Animal Friendhship</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Animal Messenger</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Animal Shapes</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Arcane Gate</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Bane</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Banishment</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Bigby's Hand</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Blight</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Blindness/Deafness</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Call Lightning</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Chain Lightning</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Charm Person</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Chromatic Orb</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Command</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Compelled Duel</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Compulsion</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Conjure Animals</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Conjure Celestial</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Conjure Fey</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Conjure Minor Elementals</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Conjure Woodland Beings</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Counterspell</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Crown of Madness</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Demiplane</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Disintegrate</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Divine Word</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Dominate Beast</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Dominate Monster</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Dominate Person</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Earthquake</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Enlarge/Reduce</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Enthrall</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Evard's Black Tentacles</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Eyebite*</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Fabricate</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Feeblemind</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>Finger of Death</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Flesh to Stone</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Gate</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Geas</td></tr></table> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Level</th><th>Spell</th></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Grasping Vine</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Guardian of Faith</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Harm</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Haste</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Heal</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Healing Word</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Heat Metal</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Hellish Rebuke</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Hex</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Hold Monster</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Hold Person</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Hunter's Mark</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Imprisonment</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Knock</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Levitate</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Magic Circle</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Magic Missile</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Magic Mouth</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Major Image</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Mass Heal</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Mass Healing Word</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Mass Suggestion</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Maze</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Meteor Swarm</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Misty Step</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Modify Memory</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Mordenkainen's Faithtful Hound</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Otto's Irresistible Dance</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Passwall</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Phantasmal Force</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Phantasmal Killer</td></tr><tr><td>0</td><td>Poison Spray</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>Polymorph</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Power Word Kill</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>Power Word Stun</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Prayer of Healing</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Prismatic Wall</td></tr><tr><td>0</td><td>Sacred Flame</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Seeming</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>Storm of Vengeance</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>Suggestion</td></tr></table> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><th>Level</th><th>Spell</th></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Tasha's Hideous Laughter</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>Telekinesis*</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>Tenser's Floating Disc</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>True Polymorph</td></tr><tr><td>0</td><td>Vicious Mockery</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Water Breathing</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>Water Walk</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>Wind Walk</td></tr></table><p></p><p>If you cant see, you cant cast those spells on anyone else.</p><p></p><p>People just dont understand how crippling it is when you cant see your enemy. It shuts down the majority of spells and special abilities, in addition to the advantage/ disadvantage on attacks, and the ability of your opponent to Hide at will.</p><p></p><p>There is already a mechanic for utilizing 'being unseen' to attempt to Hide (the Hide action), and a mechanic for utilizing Perception to locate hidden creatures (the Search action). </p><p></p><p>Layering some weird 'auto hidden' and 'free perception checks to locate' mechanic over the top devalues abilities that let you Search or Hide as bonus actions (Investigator Rogue, Cunning Action, Rangers) and overpowers spells like invisibility and darkness that are already really good.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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