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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 2780790" data-attributes="member: 12332">Hrm.  I like the idea ('course, I'm the guy that started the original thread), but I think it may be a little too situational for the abilities this guy gets.Basically you've got a guy who has to wear light armor (ACP) and take AoOs until 8th level to "see" and then only gains effective Blindsense at 5'-20' or so until 10th level, when he starts to ninja-out pretty nicely with hugely-expanding Blindsight.Yet still gets totally hosed by an alchemical item available to 1st level mooks.What I'd suggest is a feat for blind-only characters that gives Blindsense 20'/Blindsight 5' that requires Blind-Fight.  This would, effectively, allow for somebody to play a successful Blind Swordsman from 1st level (as a human, using Blind-Fight and New Feat X for starting feats).Then make that new feat a req in place of Alertness (which is really hosing a blind guy, since he's incapable of making Spot checks).  Add to that feat that a character can attempt a Move Silently check to become effectively invisible to the blindsight of the feat-holder, and that the Blindsight is ineffective if the character is blinded.I'd then lower the entrance requirements a tish so that Monks can get in before 10th level, since I imagine alot of people will want to do a Zatoichi-style asian themed guy.  Especially given the light-armor aspect.--fje</blockquote>