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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 95687" data-attributes="member: 259">Okay, let's forget it.&nbsp; I'm getting cranky, and that does no one good.I was not looking for tactical suggestions for how NPCs should deal with this strategy, as I've stated about half a dozen times in this thread.&nbsp; I was looking for suggestions to make this spell combination not be superior to improved invisibility and true seeing combined.Some folks got the idea; thanks for the input.&nbsp; Other folks are either uninterested in helping a poor DM out, or are convinced that proselytizing to me about how I should just accept power combos is better than seeking rules-based balance.&nbsp; Those who are convinced of this are wrong.Anyway, thanks again for those of you who got the idea.&nbsp; For now, I'm yanking the spell from my campaign; I'm guessing that my player who used it will agree (note that Spider was among those who discussed the issue as I requested -- and he even pointed out additional ways that the spell was overpowered.&nbsp; Thanks, Spider!).Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 95687, member: 259"] Okay, let's forget it. I'm getting cranky, and that does no one good. I was not looking for tactical suggestions for how NPCs should deal with this strategy, as I've stated about half a dozen times in this thread. I was looking for suggestions to make this spell combination not be superior to improved invisibility and true seeing combined. Some folks got the idea; thanks for the input. Other folks are either uninterested in helping a poor DM out, or are convinced that proselytizing to me about how I should just accept power combos is better than seeking rules-based balance. Those who are convinced of this are wrong. Anyway, thanks again for those of you who got the idea. For now, I'm yanking the spell from my campaign; I'm guessing that my player who used it will agree (note that Spider was among those who discussed the issue as I requested -- and he even pointed out additional ways that the spell was overpowered. Thanks, Spider!). Daniel [/QUOTE]

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