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<blockquote data-quote="The_lone_gunman" data-source="post: 95820" data-attributes="member: 1143">Not to be a jerk or anything, but lets take a look at your orignal post, starting with the title:&quot; Blindsight plus darkness -- unsalvageably broken? &quot;This to me looks like someone who wants to debate whether or not the combo is broken, not a question asking for nerfs...&quot;Is this analysis correct? If so, how should it be fixed?&quot;Many people are disagreeing with your analysis, hence on the posts on how to use NPC's to get around your players creative use of the spells......&quot;At this point, I'm leaning heavily toward removing blindsight from the spell list. Since it's been used once, however, I'd rather just find a way to nerf it. &quot;Here is a point where you discuss nerfing, but many folks on these boards frown on changes of the rules like this whenever possible, and think that to nerf this spell would be a bad thing. The main reason for this is that it simply isnt that great of a combo, it is something that NPC's can work against, which you have been given many many ways to beat. A lot of the experienced DMs here know that there is many more powerful &quot;spell combo's&quot; out there, and if you start nerfing with these, what are you going to do later in the campaign? No one is trying to tell you how to run your campaign, they are just trying to give you helpful guidance. It is your world, do what you want.......&quot;What do you guys think? These restrictions might make blindsight no better than darkvision, a second-level spell. &quot;The key part of this last sentence is the &quot;what do you guys think&quot;, which I took to interpret NOT as &quot;what is the best nerf for this&quot;, but as, &quot;what are your opinions of my analysis and such....&quot;. Not that I am one to poke at cranky folks.....but to say that folks are not answering your question, that seems a bit incorrect. Seems like they are answering it, just not giving you the answer you want to hear <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. Good luck with your nerf <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.TLG</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The_lone_gunman, post: 95820, member: 1143"] Not to be a jerk or anything, but lets take a look at your orignal post, starting with the title: " Blindsight plus darkness -- unsalvageably broken? " This to me looks like someone who wants to debate whether or not the combo is broken, not a question asking for nerfs... "Is this analysis correct? If so, how should it be fixed?" Many people are disagreeing with your analysis, hence on the posts on how to use NPC's to get around your players creative use of the spells...... "At this point, I'm leaning heavily toward removing blindsight from the spell list. Since it's been used once, however, I'd rather just find a way to nerf it. " Here is a point where you discuss nerfing, but many folks on these boards frown on changes of the rules like this whenever possible, and think that to nerf this spell would be a bad thing. The main reason for this is that it simply isnt that great of a combo, it is something that NPC's can work against, which you have been given many many ways to beat. A lot of the experienced DMs here know that there is many more powerful "spell combo's" out there, and if you start nerfing with these, what are you going to do later in the campaign? No one is trying to tell you how to run your campaign, they are just trying to give you helpful guidance. It is your world, do what you want....... "What do you guys think? These restrictions might make blindsight no better than darkvision, a second-level spell. " The key part of this last sentence is the "what do you guys think", which I took to interpret NOT as "what is the best nerf for this", but as, "what are your opinions of my analysis and such....". Not that I am one to poke at cranky folks.....but to say that folks are not answering your question, that seems a bit incorrect. Seems like they are answering it, just not giving you the answer you want to hear :). Good luck with your nerf :). TLG [/QUOTE]

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