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<blockquote data-quote="Destil" data-source="post: 765731" data-attributes="member: 1980">While that's the setiment that's been published in many post core rule books, it's problmatic at best, and IMHO hurts class balance too much. This allows anything with blindsight to completly trump a rogue reguardless of skill.Per the DMG you can make a very good arguement that you can hide from blindsight, and that it's only supposted to defeat things like invisibility and darkness. It's still a sort of sight you can hude from, though much better than normal, dark and low-light vision in many ways. The problem with this is determining what sort of check to use to find somehting hiding, and I'd make it the better of the creature's spot or listen, myself. This makes blindsight a way to keep invisble mages from out-stealthing a rogue.Entirely my opinion, though. The core rule books are ambigious and supplements go dirrectly against this interpertation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Destil, post: 765731, member: 1980"] While that's the setiment that's been published in many post core rule books, it's problmatic at best, and IMHO hurts class balance too much. This allows anything with blindsight to completly trump a rogue reguardless of skill. Per the DMG you can make a very good arguement that you can hide from blindsight, and that it's only supposted to defeat things like invisibility and darkness. It's still a sort of sight you can hude from, though much better than normal, dark and low-light vision in many ways. The problem with this is determining what sort of check to use to find somehting hiding, and I'd make it the better of the creature's spot or listen, myself. This makes blindsight a way to keep invisble mages from out-stealthing a rogue. Entirely my opinion, though. The core rule books are ambigious and supplements go dirrectly against this interpertation. [/QUOTE]

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