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Blink automatically allows sneak attacks, what?
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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2034646" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Incorrect.</p><p></p><p>Sneak attack states:</p><p></p><p>"A rogue cannot sneak attack while striking a creature with concealment"</p><p></p><p>A blinking Rogue against a non-blinking creature does not miss due to concealment since the creature does not have concealment.</p><p></p><p>The Blink spell is quite clear that the Rogue has a miss chance, not a concealment miss chance. And it states:</p><p></p><p>"Likewise, your own attacks have a 20% miss chance, since you sometimes go ethereal just as you are about to strike."</p><p></p><p>This is crystal clear. You do not miss because you sometimes do not see your opponent clearly from the ethereal plane, you sometimes miss because you blink out as you are about to strike.</p><p></p><p>Plus, sneak attack works due to:</p><p></p><p>"You strike as an invisible creature (with a +2 bonus on attack rolls), denying your target any Dexterity bonus to AC."</p><p></p><p>"The rogue’s attack deals extra damage any time her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC"</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you need a rationale as to how this works, the Rogue indistinctly sees his opponent from the Ethereal Plane and waits to strike. When he goes material again, he clearly sees his opponent and strikes as if Invisible (i.e. becoming visible from the ethereal plane is no different than becoming visible when your Invisibility goes away due to you attacking). He gets his sneak attack bonus because the opponent was denied his Dex bonus for being unable to see him until he struck.</p><p></p><p>But, there is a slim chance that he blinks back into the Ethereal plane before landing the blow and he misses if this happens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2034646, member: 2011"] Incorrect. Sneak attack states: "A rogue cannot sneak attack while striking a creature with concealment" A blinking Rogue against a non-blinking creature does not miss due to concealment since the creature does not have concealment. The Blink spell is quite clear that the Rogue has a miss chance, not a concealment miss chance. And it states: "Likewise, your own attacks have a 20% miss chance, since you sometimes go ethereal just as you are about to strike." This is crystal clear. You do not miss because you sometimes do not see your opponent clearly from the ethereal plane, you sometimes miss because you blink out as you are about to strike. Plus, sneak attack works due to: "You strike as an invisible creature (with a +2 bonus on attack rolls), denying your target any Dexterity bonus to AC." "The rogue’s attack deals extra damage any time her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC" If you need a rationale as to how this works, the Rogue indistinctly sees his opponent from the Ethereal Plane and waits to strike. When he goes material again, he clearly sees his opponent and strikes as if Invisible (i.e. becoming visible from the ethereal plane is no different than becoming visible when your Invisibility goes away due to you attacking). He gets his sneak attack bonus because the opponent was denied his Dex bonus for being unable to see him until he struck. But, there is a slim chance that he blinks back into the Ethereal plane before landing the blow and he misses if this happens. [/QUOTE]
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