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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 864639" data-attributes="member: 284">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Blink, Ghost Touch weapons and Sneak attackI was&nbsp; referring to someone attempting to strike a blinking target.&nbsp; &nbsp; If you can both&nbsp; See Invisibile and have a Ghost touch weapon, you do not have a miss chance when attacking a blinking target (in spite of the fact that Ghost Touch weapons can't hit Ethereal creatures). You seem to be referring to a blinking person attempting to strike a non-blinking person.&nbsp; If you are under the effects of a Blink spell,&nbsp; see invisible is irrelevent (unless your target is actually invisible), because you can see the Material plane from the Ethereal plane.&nbsp; &nbsp; That's why you only have the 20% miss chance due to &quot;blinking out&quot; just before you strike.&nbsp; &nbsp; Ghost touch weapons don't allow Ethereal creatures to hit&nbsp; material creatures, so they won't reduce it either. You seem to be misunderstanding me. The Blink spell makes you Ethereal part of the time (when you &quot;blink out&quot;).&nbsp;&nbsp; At no time does it make you Incorporeal. Ghost touch weapons cannot strike Ethereal targets. Ghost touch weapons can strike Incorporeal targets. However,&nbsp; the Blink spell allows a Ghost touch weapon to hit you even if you have &quot;blinked out&quot;.&nbsp; Therefore the Blink spell&nbsp; is givng the &quot;able to be hit by Ghost Touch&quot; property to someone in the &quot;Ethereal&quot; state.&nbsp; It's confusing Ethereal with Incorporeal.&nbsp; &nbsp; Probably the two states were identical (or nearly identical) early in the playtest, and Blink never got updated when they were changed.&nbsp; That's just a guess though.You seem to saying that the Blink spell doesn't actually make you Ethereal, it instead makes you some odd mix of Ethereal and Incorporeal.&nbsp;&nbsp; That is the practical effect as written, however the spell is pretty clear in that it is only supposed to make you Ethereal.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 864639, member: 284"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Blink, Ghost Touch weapons and Sneak attack[/b] I was referring to someone attempting to strike a blinking target. If you can both [i]See Invisibile[/i] and have a Ghost touch weapon, you do not have a miss chance when attacking a blinking target (in spite of the fact that Ghost Touch weapons can't hit Ethereal creatures). You seem to be referring to a blinking person attempting to strike a non-blinking person. If you are under the effects of a [i]Blink[/i] spell, [i]see invisible[/i] is irrelevent (unless your target is actually invisible), because you can see the Material plane from the Ethereal plane. That's why you only have the 20% miss chance due to "blinking out" just before you strike. Ghost touch weapons don't allow Ethereal creatures to hit material creatures, so they won't reduce it either. [b][/B] You seem to be misunderstanding me. The [i]Blink[/i] spell makes you Ethereal part of the time (when you "blink out"). At no time does it make you Incorporeal. Ghost touch weapons [b]cannot[/b] strike Ethereal targets. Ghost touch weapons [b]can[/b] strike Incorporeal targets. However, the [i]Blink[/i] spell allows a Ghost touch weapon to hit you even if you have "blinked out". Therefore the [i]Blink[/i] spell is givng the "able to be hit by Ghost Touch" property to someone in the "Ethereal" state. It's confusing Ethereal with Incorporeal. Probably the two states were identical (or nearly identical) early in the playtest, and Blink never got updated when they were changed. That's just a guess though. You seem to saying that the [i]Blink[/i] spell doesn't actually make you Ethereal, it instead makes you some odd mix of Ethereal and Incorporeal. That [b]is[/b] the practical effect as written, however the spell is pretty clear in that it is only supposed to make you Ethereal. [/QUOTE]

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