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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 5092969" data-attributes="member: 40109">Because ethereal creatures are invisible. If you can see invisible things, you can at least see the blinking creature 100% of the time, even though you can only hit it 50% of the time (when it is on the same plane as you).&nbsp;What's this about ghost touch weapons not working? I don't see anything in the spell description about that.&nbsp;If the attack is capable of striking ethereal creatures, the miss chance is only 20% (for concealment).&nbsp;So if you have a ghost touch weapon, but can't see invisible things, 20% miss chance. Right?&nbsp;Oh, I see where the confusion lies.&nbsp;First of all, the blinking can't be happening that rapidly. Since a blinking creature can pass through walls, it must be able to move quickly enough that you can't say just because you saw him in one square a moment ago, he's still there when you attack.&nbsp;Second, and much more importantly, the game is attempting to model the confusion that would arise from only being able to see your opponent 50% of the time. Imagine, for example, that you were fighting someone in a room illuminated only by a strobe light. Despite the fact that your opponent is always on the same plane as you (effectively the same as a ghost touch weapon vs. an ethereal opponent), it would be harder to actually land a blow. Not as hard as in a pitch black room (invisible opponent = 50% miss chance), but certainly your opponent would benefit from some degree of concealment (say, 20%).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 5092969, member: 40109"] Because ethereal creatures are invisible. If you can see invisible things, you can at least [I]see[/I] the blinking creature 100% of the time, even though you can only [I]hit[/I] it 50% of the time (when it is on the same plane as you). What's this about ghost touch weapons not working? I don't see anything in the spell description about that. [COLOR=deepskyblue]If the attack is capable of striking ethereal creatures, the miss chance is only 20% (for concealment).[/COLOR] So if you have a ghost touch weapon, but can't see invisible things, 20% miss chance. Right? Oh, I see where the confusion lies. First of all, the blinking can't be happening that rapidly. Since a blinking creature can pass through walls, it must be able to move quickly enough that you can't say just because you saw him in one square a moment ago, he's still there when you attack. Second, and much more importantly, the game is attempting to model the confusion that would arise from only being able to see your opponent 50% of the time. Imagine, for example, that you were fighting someone in a room illuminated only by a strobe light. Despite the fact that your opponent is always on the same plane as you (effectively the same as a ghost touch weapon vs. an ethereal opponent), it would be harder to actually land a blow. Not as hard as in a pitch black room (invisible opponent = 50% miss chance), but certainly your opponent would benefit from some degree of concealment (say, 20%). [/QUOTE]

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