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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 5888801" data-attributes="member: 6688049"><p>It looks like the 5e Backgrounds and Themes aim to distill nearly all subclasses, kits, roles, and builds, from every edition. I group them into various approximate categories as a framework for guessing what others might be included in the D&D Next core:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The D&D class and "class group" names from earlier editions which are not covered by the class names (so that we have both Rogue and Thief and both Cleric and Priest [from the 2e cleric "Group" name]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 4e Roles, by making them Basic Themes (Leader, Guardian [=Defender]), Lurker [taken from the monster role]). This is a clever melding of 4e terminology back into a more Classic D&D framework.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 4e Essentials builds: Slayer, Knight</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 3e Prestige Classes, by making them Advanced Themes (Shadowdancer, Eldritch Knight, Dwarven Defender, Arcane Archer)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 2e Specialty Priest classes, by making them Domain Themes</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The 2e Specialist Wizard classes, by making them Advanced Themes (Necromancer, Abjurer, Enchanter)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The generic "NPC classes" from earlier editions (Commoner, Soldier [=Warrior], Sage, Alchemist)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Other key high fantasy archetypes which are always eventually covered by each edition (Gladiator = 2e kit and key Dark Sun class; Knight = CD&D Name-Level Fighter option and 3e prototype class for the 4e Defender role)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Regional backgrounds, originally from the 3e FRCS (Thay, Blackmoor)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Setting-specific organizations and factions (Red Wizards, Greyhawk's Knights of the Watch, Disciple of Tenser, and the various Planescape factions)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Story backgrouds", such as Bereaved.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Monstrous PCs (Deva, Plane-touched, Werewolf, Revenant)</li> </ul><p>Given this rough breakdown, could we guess what other Backgrounds and Themes will be covered in the Core books?</p><p> </p><p>The other 2e group or class names:? Mage (with Wizard); "Warrior" is probably covered by "Soldier"</p><p> </p><p>The other 4e Roles as Basic Themes? (Controller? Striker?)</p><p> </p><p>The other Essentials builds?: (Hunter, Scout, Mage, Hexblade, Sentinel?)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Will the 5e PHB include all the other Prestige Classes from the 3.0 and 3.5 PHB? 3e introduced some new "D&D-specific" class names--including them as distinct options in the Core will go a long way toward distilling the 3e feel into D&D Next. </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Arcane Trickster</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Archmage (probably a "Paragon Theme", even higher than an "Advanced Theme")</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blackguard (or will Paladins be able to take any alignment from the start?)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dragon Disciple</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Duelist</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hierophant</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Horizon Walker</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Loremaster</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mystic Theurge</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Thaumaturgist</li> </ul><p>The Unearthed Arcana classes--<em>Thief-Acrobat</em> and UA-style <em>Cavalier</em> as Advanced Themes, continuing from the Thief and Knight basic builds? Having Thief-Acrobat and Cavalier in the PHB would be a nice nod to First Edition.</p><p> </p><p>The other 2.5e Skills & Powers kits (serving as a distillation of the many 2.0e kits)?</p><p> </p><p>Will Regions and Organizations/Factions only be included in future Campaign Setting books, or will the Core book somehow include them?</p><p> </p><p>Other key "story backgrounds", like the "Birth Backgrounds" and "Society Backgrounds" of 4e? (Ostracized, Refugee, Orphaned; the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/database.aspx" target="_blank">Compendium</a> shows the full list)</p><p> </p><p>Other monstrous PC options, similar to 3e's <em>Savage Species</em> and <a href="http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/miscpages/pc.html" target="_blank">CD&D <em>Creature Crucibles</em></a>?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 5888801, member: 6688049"] It looks like the 5e Backgrounds and Themes aim to distill nearly all subclasses, kits, roles, and builds, from every edition. I group them into various approximate categories as a framework for guessing what others might be included in the D&D Next core: [LIST] [*]The D&D class and "class group" names from earlier editions which are not covered by the class names (so that we have both Rogue and Thief and both Cleric and Priest [from the 2e cleric "Group" name] [*]The 4e Roles, by making them Basic Themes (Leader, Guardian [=Defender]), Lurker [taken from the monster role]). This is a clever melding of 4e terminology back into a more Classic D&D framework. [*]The 4e Essentials builds: Slayer, Knight [*]The 3e Prestige Classes, by making them Advanced Themes (Shadowdancer, Eldritch Knight, Dwarven Defender, Arcane Archer) [*]The 2e Specialty Priest classes, by making them Domain Themes [*]The 2e Specialist Wizard classes, by making them Advanced Themes (Necromancer, Abjurer, Enchanter) [*]The generic "NPC classes" from earlier editions (Commoner, Soldier [=Warrior], Sage, Alchemist) [*]Other key high fantasy archetypes which are always eventually covered by each edition (Gladiator = 2e kit and key Dark Sun class; Knight = CD&D Name-Level Fighter option and 3e prototype class for the 4e Defender role) [*]The Regional backgrounds, originally from the 3e FRCS (Thay, Blackmoor) [*]The Setting-specific organizations and factions (Red Wizards, Greyhawk's Knights of the Watch, Disciple of Tenser, and the various Planescape factions) [*]"Story backgrouds", such as Bereaved. [*]Monstrous PCs (Deva, Plane-touched, Werewolf, Revenant) [/LIST]Given this rough breakdown, could we guess what other Backgrounds and Themes will be covered in the Core books? The other 2e group or class names:? Mage (with Wizard); "Warrior" is probably covered by "Soldier" The other 4e Roles as Basic Themes? (Controller? Striker?) The other Essentials builds?: (Hunter, Scout, Mage, Hexblade, Sentinel?) Will the 5e PHB include all the other Prestige Classes from the 3.0 and 3.5 PHB? 3e introduced some new "D&D-specific" class names--including them as distinct options in the Core will go a long way toward distilling the 3e feel into D&D Next. [LIST] [*]Arcane Trickster [*]Archmage (probably a "Paragon Theme", even higher than an "Advanced Theme") [*]Blackguard (or will Paladins be able to take any alignment from the start?) [*]Dragon Disciple [*]Duelist [*]Hierophant [*]Horizon Walker [*]Loremaster [*]Mystic Theurge [*]Thaumaturgist [/LIST]The Unearthed Arcana classes--[I]Thief-Acrobat[/I] and UA-style [I]Cavalier[/I] as Advanced Themes, continuing from the Thief and Knight basic builds? Having Thief-Acrobat and Cavalier in the PHB would be a nice nod to First Edition. The other 2.5e Skills & Powers kits (serving as a distillation of the many 2.0e kits)? Will Regions and Organizations/Factions only be included in future Campaign Setting books, or will the Core book somehow include them? Other key "story backgrounds", like the "Birth Backgrounds" and "Society Backgrounds" of 4e? (Ostracized, Refugee, Orphaned; the [URL="http://www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/database.aspx"]Compendium[/URL] shows the full list) Other monstrous PC options, similar to 3e's [I]Savage Species[/I] and [URL="http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/miscpages/pc.html"]CD&D [I]Creature Crucibles[/I][/URL]? [/QUOTE]
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