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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 6330225" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>You can be just as boneheaded with a 3e rogue as a 4e rogue.</p><p></p><p>Your 3e sorcerer example is perfectly decent, but your rogue one is flatly incorrect. That's why people keep pointing it out. </p><p></p><p>If you make identical choices for the 3e rogue as the 4e rogue, both end up ineffective at combat and hopefully more effective at the other thing they chose. Though perhaps not so. 3e certainly allows you to cripple a character far more effectively than any other edition (the 10th level character with 0 BAB and no higher than 1st level casting someone made as an example springs to mind). No one is arguing that 4e doesn't make it harder to make a bad character. I've seen plenty of rogues fail to get sneak attack, or deal only their stat in damage (ie: 5 damage) instead of a full amount.</p><p></p><p>They're just nitpicking your specific very flawed example <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>A 4e rogue can choose not to take movement powers. Can choose to use a crossbow and hang out with the wizard. Can even choose to focus on Charisma and Intelligence, dropping his Dex to 8 or lower cause he's RPing a clumsy oaf. These are not unique facets of 3e. Really, the unique aspect of 3e is its multiclassing system which lets you scatter a character's focus (and also maximize its focus to an incredible degree).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 6330225, member: 43019"] You can be just as boneheaded with a 3e rogue as a 4e rogue. Your 3e sorcerer example is perfectly decent, but your rogue one is flatly incorrect. That's why people keep pointing it out. If you make identical choices for the 3e rogue as the 4e rogue, both end up ineffective at combat and hopefully more effective at the other thing they chose. Though perhaps not so. 3e certainly allows you to cripple a character far more effectively than any other edition (the 10th level character with 0 BAB and no higher than 1st level casting someone made as an example springs to mind). No one is arguing that 4e doesn't make it harder to make a bad character. I've seen plenty of rogues fail to get sneak attack, or deal only their stat in damage (ie: 5 damage) instead of a full amount. They're just nitpicking your specific very flawed example :) A 4e rogue can choose not to take movement powers. Can choose to use a crossbow and hang out with the wizard. Can even choose to focus on Charisma and Intelligence, dropping his Dex to 8 or lower cause he's RPing a clumsy oaf. These are not unique facets of 3e. Really, the unique aspect of 3e is its multiclassing system which lets you scatter a character's focus (and also maximize its focus to an incredible degree). [/QUOTE]
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