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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 5865273" data-attributes="member: 158">Exactly. I'm amused that what Rob's talking about is basically Pathfinder's rogue, only with moving the sneak attack raises into rogue talents. (Well, to be fair, this started in 3.5 as the rogue &quot;major talents&quot; that started at 10th level.) Now, if the &quot;talents&quot; are as valuable as an extra damage die on backstab, to make the choice hard, I'm all for it. It works well for various classes in Pathfinder, from Rogues, to Alchemists, Ninjas, Summoner Eidolons, etc.Actually I like one other effect of this: I have always believed that combat advantage should give something better than just a +2 to hit - just because I'm not a rogue, I don't know how to stab a man in the kidneys? Now, if a rogue can make it count more, that's fine. But its somewhat like saying you can't crit in combat if you're not a fighter. A high-level fighter can do improved critical, get feats that boost the confirm roll, etc. but anyone can get that lucky hit that skewers the foe.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 5865273, member: 158"] Exactly. I'm amused that what Rob's talking about is basically Pathfinder's rogue, only with moving the sneak attack raises into rogue talents. (Well, to be fair, this started in 3.5 as the rogue "major talents" that started at 10th level.) Now, if the "talents" are as valuable as an extra damage die on backstab, to make the choice hard, I'm all for it. It works well for various classes in Pathfinder, from Rogues, to Alchemists, Ninjas, Summoner Eidolons, etc. Actually I like one other effect of this: I have always believed that combat advantage should give something better than just a +2 to hit - just because I'm not a rogue, I don't know how to stab a man in the kidneys? Now, if a rogue can make it count more, that's fine. But its somewhat like saying you can't crit in combat if you're not a fighter. A high-level fighter can do improved critical, get feats that boost the confirm roll, etc. but anyone can get that lucky hit that skewers the foe. [/QUOTE]

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