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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zentermi" data-source="post: 571207" data-attributes="member: 9427">I'm entering into this late, but it's a really good discussion.I have to admit that I am of the same opinion as Dragonblade on this one.Paladins are servants of actual Gods(in their respective areas). As more fuel for the "obeying local laws simply because they are in place" argument... A paladin should not obey local laws which are obviously evil. Correct?The gaming world is a scenario where there is no doubt that there is an afterlife. A paladin slaying an evil NPC/critter is not even a judgement. Only the gods can do that. He is merely speeding his foe on towards that true judgement.Paladins shouldn't just go whack people/critters that "detect" as evil unless he is certain that evil actions have actually been committed. Everyone has entertained evil thoughts occasionally. In fact, one's own evil thoughts may be the very reason a person has chooses to become a paladin. To hold the beast inside in check.See, a paladin never chooses to bring someone down. The badguys choose that. It is their actions which bring down the righteous wrath of the noble paladin. So what, if some evil wizard kidnaps a maiden, totures her a while... fights 'til it seems he's about to lose and says "I surrender!". Is the maiden then un-tortured? The village unburned? The urchin un-murdered?It's a simple logic problem. If the bad guys had not done what they did... the paladin wouldn't even be there killing their evil-surrendering-a**es.For myself, I always imagine paladins as perhaps being regretful for the harsh path he must tread, to rid the world of those who would do evil. "For the actions which you have commited, foul Jagas, I have no recourse but to send you to your judgement. I wish, by Pelor, that you had chosen differently" Off with his head.Lastly, I'm sorry... but this 'example' is just awful:---------------------------------------------------------------------------quote:Also, there is a big difference between an evil Lich and say a Half-Orc Barbarian in a civilized setting that just killed some peasant in a fight because that is how he was raised to handle conflicts and doesn't know any better.:endquote----------------------------------------------------------------------------The Half-Orc in question is still a murderer. And if any paladin 'worth-his-salt' saw this and accepted his surrender... allowing 'misguided scum like that to kill again... strip him of his paladinhood.If it bleeds... it can die...Zentermi</blockquote>

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