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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 7731727" data-attributes="member: 6688049">Well, if the WotC design team were to consciously take up the Realities framework, it wouldn't change any of that. The ToT, Spellplague, and 2nd Sundering happened in all nine Realities of the Forgotten Realms:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Original D&D Forgotten Realms (never seen in an official product)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Classic/BECMI D&D Forgotten Realms (never seen in an official product)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AD&D 1E Forgotten Realms (past, present, and future is always 1E)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AD&D 2E Forgotten Realms (past, present, and future is always 2E; the past of this reality is seen in the 2E Arcane Age books)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">SAGA Forgotten Realms (only glimpsed in the DRAGON magazine article which showed how to convert other worlds into SAGA rules)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">D&D 3E Forgotten Realms (past, present, and future is always 3E)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">D&D 4E Forgotten Realms (past, present, and future is always 4E)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">D&D 5E Forgotten Realms (past, present, and future is always 5E)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Transitive Forgotten Realms (where the underlying rules reality did shift from 1E, to 2E, to 3E, to 4E, to 5E at particular moments in the chronology. Given that the D&D Multiverse was not coherently portrayed in OD&D, which consisted only of Oerth and Blackmoor, it's not certain if there was an OD&D era in the Transitive Reality. Same for BECMI, only a few of worlds of the D&D Multiverse have been seen: Mystara, Blackmoor, Pelinore, and a bit of Oerth (some of the first BD&D modules were set in both Oerth and Mystara).)</li> </ul>As suggested in the 2E Arcane Age products, the way magic worked before the crises could be somewhat modelled within each Rules set; for example, by designing "lost" 1E-style spells and spellcasting but molded to fit with 2E rules. Same for other in-story facets, such as the vampires...could call the pre-crisis level-draining vampires "archaic vampires" or something, and stat them out with all eight rules sets, and also stat out the post-crisis non-level draining vampires in all eight rules sets. Or perhaps these distinctions would only be done in those worlds (such as Toril) which had in-story references to the changes.AFAIK, Krynn did have in-story crises tied to edition changes:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Chaos War (1e Krynn to SAGA Krynn)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">War of Souls (SAGA Krynn to 3e Krynn)</li> </ul>Oerth did too:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate_of_Istus" target="_blank">Fate of Istus</a> (1e Oerth to 2e Oerth)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Die Vecna Die! (2e Oerth to 3e Oerth)</li> </ul></blockquote>

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