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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 7664832" data-attributes="member: 944">I've read almost everything that inspired  True 20 and liked most it which is amusing considering how Conservative my politics can be. I never found it hard to tweak it a bit and to make Aldis a bit more like Valdemaar which is nowhere near as fluffy bunny as some people think . Its a bit off topic but Valedemar is   Liberal and Tolerant but not Progressive which are two separate things . Heck the Green Rider series wasn't especially political only it had kind of psi-magic and some of the tropes as well.  The writers of True 20 kind of conflated the two as does a good part of the Leftist Entriests we've seen creeping into gaming of late. This is a product of the political issues in the US right now more than anything and its unfortunate as I like my gaming like my Starbucks  free of political BS unless I start it.   As for me I mostly  bought the game for its awesome magic system. Of course I also like True 20 a lot and own most of the game save a few of the every newest as well. Its maybe my favorite D20. However the D20 mechanics don't do well with social conflicts and from what I've seen neither does AGE. In reality it ends up an action game anyway with a somewhat prog setting if you use Aldis as written.  My groups  certainly don't need a values lesson any more than I need one with overpriced coffee. Not everything needs to be political.However it is possible to make social conflict rules that work well, GURPS manages it   with its social engineering supplement,. Its  well supported with pyramid issues and other supplements playing off it. Its not for most groups though, my guys just want to stab demon cows with swords and detonate Shaper flying saucers and such like not RP every social encounter and romance, the alleged staple of Romantic Fantasy is right out. We're mostly  Dudes, Bro.YMMV of course. After all that I have to say  gaming is pretty tolerant as a hobby and I'm proud of that. we've had gay characters in games I've been in  forever Vanyel Ashkevron knockoffs , bi characters, women pretending to be men ,all sorts of races and creeds, nobody cares.  We've had all manner of players with Satanists and Christians and Pagans and Hindus and many different races at the same table, playing, hanging out getting along.  Sometimes I wish we could share that with others. I'm a grown up and I know we can't but now and than its great to be a geek.</blockquote>

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