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<blockquote data-quote="Murrdox" data-source="post: 944519" data-attributes="member: 10131">Technik4, I ran into the same problem with a rogue with &quot;Quicker than the Eye&quot;.&nbsp; He rarely, if ever failed his bluff.&nbsp; I found that even at lower levels, the spot skill of the creature in question was usually half or less than the bluff of the rogue.Meaning at level 7 or so, you've got a rogue with a +10 to bluff, fighting a creature who MIGHT have a +5 to spot, probably less, unless it's a creature with racially good eyes.At first I thought this was absolutely crazy, then I realized that with all the different ways a Rogue can get rid of the dex bonus of other creatures, depending on how ingenuitive he is, a rogue SHOULD be sneak attacking almost every round.Then I pretty much let the issue drop, because I figured it really isn't that much of a balance issue.I still like your idea of making bluff a bit more difficult from a distance.&nbsp; Makes sense.&nbsp; I'd probably only make it +1 per 10', but that's just me.&nbsp; -6 seems a bit harsh.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Murrdox, post: 944519, member: 10131"] Technik4, I ran into the same problem with a rogue with "Quicker than the Eye". He rarely, if ever failed his bluff. I found that even at lower levels, the spot skill of the creature in question was usually half or less than the bluff of the rogue. Meaning at level 7 or so, you've got a rogue with a +10 to bluff, fighting a creature who MIGHT have a +5 to spot, probably less, unless it's a creature with racially good eyes. At first I thought this was absolutely crazy, then I realized that with all the different ways a Rogue can get rid of the dex bonus of other creatures, depending on how ingenuitive he is, a rogue SHOULD be sneak attacking almost every round. Then I pretty much let the issue drop, because I figured it really isn't that much of a balance issue. I still like your idea of making bluff a bit more difficult from a distance. Makes sense. I'd probably only make it +1 per 10', but that's just me. -6 seems a bit harsh. [/QUOTE]

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