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<blockquote data-quote="jeffhartsell" data-source="post: 2542641" data-attributes="member: 7748"><p>We use a simple rule that you take 10 on spot checks to determine encounter distances unless you've got a reason to make a spot check. Otherwise always using spot every time you move is annoying.</p><p></p><p>So, a normal person with 10 WIS can spot a medium sized creature not trying to hide 100 ft away since the DC to spot them is 0. If they are hiding their check is the DC modified by distance. If there is more than one creature or they are larger or smaller that also modifies the DC.</p><p></p><p>Now you also have to take into account terrain... Stealth and Detection in a Forest: In a sparse forest, the maximum distance at which a Spot check for detecting the nearby presence of others can succeed is 3d6×10 feet. In a medium forest, this distance is 2d8×10 feet, and in a dense forest it is 2d6×10 feet.</p><p></p><p>We use averages instead of rolling. In a sparse forest you can see 110 ft. The lvl 1 evil commoner hunting a good ranger spots at 100 ft in the forest while the ranger spots the commoner at 110 ft. Surprise round ensues and the ranger shots the unsuspecting commoner. If they were in a dense forest they spot each other at 70 ft, roll initiative. If the ranger is moving silently and hiding to sneak up on the commoner, the ranger spots the commoner at 70ft and the commoner has no clue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jeffhartsell, post: 2542641, member: 7748"] We use a simple rule that you take 10 on spot checks to determine encounter distances unless you've got a reason to make a spot check. Otherwise always using spot every time you move is annoying. So, a normal person with 10 WIS can spot a medium sized creature not trying to hide 100 ft away since the DC to spot them is 0. If they are hiding their check is the DC modified by distance. If there is more than one creature or they are larger or smaller that also modifies the DC. Now you also have to take into account terrain... Stealth and Detection in a Forest: In a sparse forest, the maximum distance at which a Spot check for detecting the nearby presence of others can succeed is 3d6×10 feet. In a medium forest, this distance is 2d8×10 feet, and in a dense forest it is 2d6×10 feet. We use averages instead of rolling. In a sparse forest you can see 110 ft. The lvl 1 evil commoner hunting a good ranger spots at 100 ft in the forest while the ranger spots the commoner at 110 ft. Surprise round ensues and the ranger shots the unsuspecting commoner. If they were in a dense forest they spot each other at 70 ft, roll initiative. If the ranger is moving silently and hiding to sneak up on the commoner, the ranger spots the commoner at 70ft and the commoner has no clue. [/QUOTE]
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