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<blockquote data-quote="Xath" data-source="post: 4006572" data-attributes="member: 17040">It seems like it's alot easier to bluff than it is to sense that someone is doing so.&nbsp; Magic items and spells that enhance the wearer/caster's ability to bluff seem to be everywhere, whereas I'm not finding anything similar for Sense motive.&nbsp; For Example:+ to Sense Motive:Periapt of Wisdom +6 (+3)+ to Bluff:Cloak of Charisma +6 (+3)Circlet of Persuasian (+3)Choaker of Eloquence, Greater (+10)Glibness (3rd level Bard spell) (+30)And I'm sure there are more that I'm not thinking of.&nbsp; Let's not forget the quantity of items available for the neck slot vs the cloak slot.&nbsp; I only mention this because it's become a severe balance issue in some games.&nbsp; It's almost impossible (without a natural 20) for a character to succeed on a sense motive check against several PCs in my game.&nbsp; Has this ever caused an issue in any of your games?&nbsp; What do you do to balance it out?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xath, post: 4006572, member: 17040"] It seems like it's alot easier to bluff than it is to sense that someone is doing so. Magic items and spells that enhance the wearer/caster's ability to bluff seem to be everywhere, whereas I'm not finding anything similar for Sense motive. For Example: + to Sense Motive: Periapt of Wisdom +6 (+3) + to Bluff: Cloak of Charisma +6 (+3) Circlet of Persuasian (+3) Choaker of Eloquence, Greater (+10) Glibness (3rd level Bard spell) (+30) And I'm sure there are more that I'm not thinking of. Let's not forget the quantity of items available for the neck slot vs the cloak slot. I only mention this because it's become a severe balance issue in some games. It's almost impossible (without a natural 20) for a character to succeed on a sense motive check against several PCs in my game. Has this ever caused an issue in any of your games? What do you do to balance it out? [/QUOTE]

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