Blur and Mirror Image

apesamongus

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What do you check first, blur or mirror image? Or, stated another way, can the blur miss chance save an image? If so, could you cast an illusion spell that made a creature that appeared to be blurred?
 

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apesamongus said:
What do you check first, blur or mirror image? Or, stated another way, can the blur miss chance save an image? If so, could you cast an illusion spell that made a creature that appeared to be blurred?
You check the blur first as you need to roll it either way. The illusion spell you can cast would be blur itself. ;)
 


It doesn't matter which way you want to run it as long as you recognize that the blur could save an image. I would roll the blur first because it's much easier, saving having to roll the attack roll, the target (up to 1d9), and computing the image AC. :)
 


It would seem that if you had both spells up at once, all of your Mirror Images would be Blurred as well. I'd check Blur first. Only if the attack gets thru that will it matter if an image was lost, not the other way around.
 

Infiniti2000 said:
You check the blur first as you need to roll it either way. The illusion spell you can cast would be blur itself. ;)
You misunderstand that question. There is no creature. Instead of making an image of a lion, why not make an image of a blurred lion?
 

3.5 FAQ says that yes, blur protects mirror images.

The mirror image spell description says the images have
an Armor Class of 10 + size modifier + Dexterity modifier.
Is it possible to improve this with spells the spellcaster casts
on herself, such as shield or mage armor? If so, why doesn’t
the spell description say the images have the caster’s Armor
Class? What happens if the caster has cover from her
surroundings? Will cover improve the images’ ACs? What
about concealment? Will fog or foliage produce a miss
chance for a foe that aims an attack at an image? What
about magical concealment, such as a blur or displacement
spell?


(...snipped two paragraphs...)

If the user has concealment from her surroundings, the
images have the same concealment. The images also look just
like the caster, and they share purely visual effects such as the
blur or displacement spell. If the mirror image user is also
using either of these effects, an attack aimed at an image has
the same miss chance an attack aimed at the caster has.

Presumably you need to randomly find the target of an attack first, re: mirror image. Then, check blur miss chance. Then, resolve the attack.

Presumably, yes, you could make an illusion of a blurred creature. However, I would expect the strangeness of this to increase the likelihood of the opponent to "study it carefully" and thereby get a Will save to disbelieve such an illusion. After all, you can just decide to make any attack look like it misses your illusionary creature, anyway.
 

apesamongus said:
You misunderstand that question. There is no creature. Instead of making an image of a lion, why not make an image of a blurred lion?
Sure, you can do that. It would have no game effect, however, because the silent image (as one spell) would be a figment, not a glamer like blur.
 

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