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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 5144452" data-attributes="member: 72317">Warlocks can't because there aren't any invocations which mimic polymorph. Even if there were, it will likely be personal range, limiting its usefulness as the warlock can't use it on others.A swordsage can take polymorph, and maintain it on the entire party since refreshing it is just a full-round action. PAO comes at lv15.Even at 3rd lv, he can access alter self, or in the very least, select one of the stat-boosting spells such as bull's str, and cast it on both himself and other melee PCs such as the fighter, and again manage this every encounter. So you are possibly looking at the swordsage and fighter starting every fight with bull's str already up (and maybe at least 1-2 other longer-duration buffs like prot-from-alignment or protection from elements).At lv7, you have stoneskin, and may even get to ignore the material components if you rule them to be SLAs or even SU abilities. Oh yes, and you can buff the entire party while you are at it too, and refresh it after every fight (assuming no components). I am unsure of how tenser's transformation interacts with their existing maneuvers though. And at lv17+, you get timestop and shapechange. Of course, what is stopping you from going timestop->whatever->refresh maneuvers->timestop->repeat?Funny though, there seem to be a lot fewer personal/touch evocation spells than I remember. Most of the swordsage's spells seem to stem from transmutation, with the odd one from abjuration (such as shield and spell turning). This however, seems to limit its damage potential somewhat. You thought the recharge magic variant was borked? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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