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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3765093" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>There seems to be a conflict with the Martial Spirit Stance (Devoted Spirit School) under target it says "You" but in the description it says you or an ally within 30 feet. Anyone know which is officially correct?</p></blockquote><p>Everything except that one short line describes it as aiding an ally or you, not just you exclusively, so it is obviously meant to affect either.</p><p></p><p>Also, since Martial Spirit is a <em>stance</em>, it's generally considered to target <em>you</em> personally, even if it has an effect on others nearby. The Holocaust Cloak stance is the same in that regard, for example, even though its effect is to deal fire damage <em>to adjacent foes</em> when they hit <em>you</em> in melee.</p><p></p><p>Also, the strikes that heal allies or the initiator are written similarly. They target 'one creature', but that is the creature that you <em>hit with them</em>, not the creature you <em>heal with them</em> as a consequence of succeeding on the attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, Thicket of Blades does do that. It specifies that <strong>any</strong> movement by the opponent, including 5-foot steps, provokes an AoO from you. Its description already specifically overrides the default rule that some movement, such as 5-foot steps, does not provoke AoOs, and it is fully within the rules doing so (the core says that feats and other effects can grant characters the ability to override some of the standard rules). So yes, Thicket of Blades ignores Tumble checks, as it is later rule and does not mention any exception for Tumble checks (yet clearly says that it works against <em>any</em> movement).</p><p></p><p>For comparison's sake, the stance Roots of the Mountain is of equal level (and available to the same class), and incurs -10 on opponents' Tumble checks to get past you, along with several other related benefits as well as DR 2/-. Thicket of Blades is focused on <em>only</em> making enemy movements around you dangerous, and provides you no special defenses. It is a more focused stance of similar nature, but more strict in its opposition of enemy movement (making it impossible for an enemy to Tumble past you without an AoO, rather than just plain difficult).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it does allow that, specifically. Each act that provokes an AoO is a separate provocation, so it is allowed by the rules to make a separate AoO for each with Defensive Rebuke.</p><p></p><p>Of course, Defensive Rebuke does not give you any extra attacks of opportunity in the round, just extra chances to make use of the AoOs you're already capable of making (if you have Combat Reflexes, then you can make multiple AoOs as normal for that feat; otherwise, Defensive Rebuke is limited as normal to the one AoO each character is normally allowed each round).</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3765093, member: 13966"] There seems to be a conflict with the Martial Spirit Stance (Devoted Spirit School) under target it says "You" but in the description it says you or an ally within 30 feet. Anyone know which is officially correct?[/QUOTE] Everything except that one short line describes it as aiding an ally or you, not just you exclusively, so it is obviously meant to affect either. Also, since Martial Spirit is a [I]stance[/I], it's generally considered to target [I]you[/I] personally, even if it has an effect on others nearby. The Holocaust Cloak stance is the same in that regard, for example, even though its effect is to deal fire damage [I]to adjacent foes[/I] when they hit [I]you[/I] in melee. Also, the strikes that heal allies or the initiator are written similarly. They target 'one creature', but that is the creature that you [I]hit with them[/I], not the creature you [I]heal with them[/I] as a consequence of succeeding on the attack. Yes, Thicket of Blades does do that. It specifies that [B]any[/B] movement by the opponent, including 5-foot steps, provokes an AoO from you. Its description already specifically overrides the default rule that some movement, such as 5-foot steps, does not provoke AoOs, and it is fully within the rules doing so (the core says that feats and other effects can grant characters the ability to override some of the standard rules). So yes, Thicket of Blades ignores Tumble checks, as it is later rule and does not mention any exception for Tumble checks (yet clearly says that it works against [I]any[/I] movement). For comparison's sake, the stance Roots of the Mountain is of equal level (and available to the same class), and incurs -10 on opponents' Tumble checks to get past you, along with several other related benefits as well as DR 2/-. Thicket of Blades is focused on [I]only[/I] making enemy movements around you dangerous, and provides you no special defenses. It is a more focused stance of similar nature, but more strict in its opposition of enemy movement (making it impossible for an enemy to Tumble past you without an AoO, rather than just plain difficult). Yes, it does allow that, specifically. Each act that provokes an AoO is a separate provocation, so it is allowed by the rules to make a separate AoO for each with Defensive Rebuke. Of course, Defensive Rebuke does not give you any extra attacks of opportunity in the round, just extra chances to make use of the AoOs you're already capable of making (if you have Combat Reflexes, then you can make multiple AoOs as normal for that feat; otherwise, Defensive Rebuke is limited as normal to the one AoO each character is normally allowed each round). [/QUOTE]
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