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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1250549" data-attributes="member: 4134">No you didn't. It was just an example for all the stuff you get from Vow of Poverty. Please explain to me how a bonus feat or a raise in an ability score is not in-game. He can do that with a simple bonus, too. He has made a Vow that he will never own anything (much), and that Vow gives him spiritual fulfilment, and through that, power. He starts to feel stronger because of his vow. That's as good as an in-game explanation as "I dreamt about an angel touching me and now I'm growing another eye."What you talk doesn't make any sense. The character gets those things. Wizard doesn't make player feats. That's the domain of kreynolds <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />First, you won't accomplish anything by capping at me.And I know that the stuff you talk about is in Fiend Folio, and that's a book by Wizards of the Coast. But it's a book that handles evil things (It's not the Angel Folio). They are a lot of disgusting things in D&D, which are all evil, and almost none of these are associated with good. I see a tendency there.I have read BoVD. I suggest you do so, too. Especially the left column of page 5, where they say that D&D uses the objective approach of evil. "The evil nature of a creature, act, or item isn't relative to the person observing it; it is just evil or it isn't" That's pretty much black-or-white.No, there isn't. They give the alternate ruling that evil isn't black-or-white. The book has also feats that deal with deformities, and these are [Vile] feats, which are only available to the really evil.Once more, I don't like your attitude. Stop using capitals. Stop. No more. You only make you sound like a 13-year-old wannabe-hacker from a bash.org quote.As I said: skin grafts and implants are usually depicted as disgusting. It's not only my opinion, but the opionion of most people in a fantasy world that has a black-or-white approach to evil. So a character who has deformities will be shunned by most people, even if he isn't evil at all. He may gain acceptance, but it won't be easy. He can expect a penalty to cha-related Checks from many people.If the people don't have the b/w approach, than it's OK, but I deresay unless it's an enlightened nation, he will still find people with prejudices. And an enlightened nation is not the most regular location in the average D&D adventure.It might work, but the ascetic already gains the disadvantage of poverty. He gets bonuses but can't use any items (except some very simple ones). Your idea will give him another disadvantage (unless noone in the game world cares for appearance, which isn't very likely).If you can't stand criticism, the boards aren't made for you.  I agreeI'm pretty sure that Wizards agrees to my views with that. That's the reason books like Fiend Folio and BoVD (both handling evil things) feature these things, but BoED (for the good guys) does not. Isn't there Mindflayer Grafts or something in Underdark? Mindflayers aren't the most benevolent beings, eitherNever forget one thing: The population of your average D&D world won't be enligtened, contented saints, for they much rather thing about them and their own being fed and sheltered. They see someone with a third eye, they shy away.I beg your pardon? You actually ask me not to post stuff contrary to the opinions of others? You want me not to convince others of my views? So, infact, you don't want me to do the two main things that define a discussion? This is a message board to discuss things, so I very much state my opinion and post my reasonings behind that. If you are not OK with that, I suggest you go getting brainwashed by some sect.Hey, your opinion differs from my. You are being contrary. By your own standards, you shouldn't do this  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

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