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<blockquote data-quote="Coredump" data-source="post: 1676786" data-attributes="member: 6939"><p>I appreciate the thought and civility you are putting into this discussion. But, I do think you are being inconsistent. I will try to explain.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. Because he is living a life of poverty...not a life of no ownership. Eventhough he did not 'own' it, he would not even borrow it for an indefinite amount of time.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But this is not the same thing. </p><p>Taking a ride on a ship is a one time thing. (or maybe 2 if round trip) Letting the King send you on his ship, to rescue his daughter. It is similar to Mother Theresa letting someone fly her to Calcutta to help the poor.</p><p>This is easily comparable to riding a companions horse. *IF* it is equally short term. You need to be on the horse to get across the river, or speed is a requirement. (not a convenience.) As you *know* the Kings daughter is about to be sacrificed, and you have to get there before midnight.</p><p>But this is not comparable if it is a long term loan. In effect giving you 90% of the benefits of ownage.</p><p></p><p>But two items. One is 'unused'. There is a reason this character has two extra horses...why is that? He apparently thinks he needs them, can he still benefit from them if the VoPer is using one? If the Character really doesn't need those horses, isn't that wasteful? Wouldn't that be distatful to teh VoPer?</p><p>Second is...it is not living in poverty. Rich Guy says "I have 7 mansions, and most of them are unused. So Ghandi, go ahead and hang out in my mansion in India. You can use my 'unused' limo to ride to the slums and help the poor" Just doesn't sound right.</p><p>Stay at his mansion while visiting? Sure. Use it long term? Not living in poverty.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Same with a PS2, you don't 'borrow' it at a friends house. But what if he said "I am not using it, take it home and keep it there. Play it whenever you want." Not very poverty stricken are you? </p><p></p><p>To me, that is a maybe. If it is a necessity, fine. If it is a convenience, not fine. A 'hero's welcome' parade. He can walk. Needing to care for the sick youth while transporting him to another town. Fine.</p><p></p><p> Those are all indefinite amounts of time. (I took out 'till the end of the ball, that is definite) </p><p></p><p></p><p>My point exactly. Short term, usually okay. Long term, not okay. And even accepting accomodations, would likely be on the low end.</p><p></p><p>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coredump, post: 1676786, member: 6939"] I appreciate the thought and civility you are putting into this discussion. But, I do think you are being inconsistent. I will try to explain. I agree. Because he is living a life of poverty...not a life of no ownership. Eventhough he did not 'own' it, he would not even borrow it for an indefinite amount of time. But this is not the same thing. Taking a ride on a ship is a one time thing. (or maybe 2 if round trip) Letting the King send you on his ship, to rescue his daughter. It is similar to Mother Theresa letting someone fly her to Calcutta to help the poor. This is easily comparable to riding a companions horse. *IF* it is equally short term. You need to be on the horse to get across the river, or speed is a requirement. (not a convenience.) As you *know* the Kings daughter is about to be sacrificed, and you have to get there before midnight. But this is not comparable if it is a long term loan. In effect giving you 90% of the benefits of ownage. But two items. One is 'unused'. There is a reason this character has two extra horses...why is that? He apparently thinks he needs them, can he still benefit from them if the VoPer is using one? If the Character really doesn't need those horses, isn't that wasteful? Wouldn't that be distatful to teh VoPer? Second is...it is not living in poverty. Rich Guy says "I have 7 mansions, and most of them are unused. So Ghandi, go ahead and hang out in my mansion in India. You can use my 'unused' limo to ride to the slums and help the poor" Just doesn't sound right. Stay at his mansion while visiting? Sure. Use it long term? Not living in poverty. Same with a PS2, you don't 'borrow' it at a friends house. But what if he said "I am not using it, take it home and keep it there. Play it whenever you want." Not very poverty stricken are you? To me, that is a maybe. If it is a necessity, fine. If it is a convenience, not fine. A 'hero's welcome' parade. He can walk. Needing to care for the sick youth while transporting him to another town. Fine. Those are all indefinite amounts of time. (I took out 'till the end of the ball, that is definite) My point exactly. Short term, usually okay. Long term, not okay. And even accepting accomodations, would likely be on the low end. . [/QUOTE]
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