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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus" data-source="post: 1680619" data-attributes="member: 1077"><p>I think an ascetic can use consumeables (potions, food, fuel for a fire) w/o breaking his Vow. He can't own any, but he can beg for them.</p><p></p><p>I also think intent has a lot to do with it. If your intent is to find a loophole and get the maximum use/benefit out of something, you are probably breaking the vow. If the player was willing to "give a little" (for roleplay reasons), I as the DM would "give a little". For example, if the current area was not safe enough to sleep in, I'd allow the ascetic to sleep in a Leomund's Tiny Hut provided he use the least amount of provisions necessary (sleep on the floor, not a bed... eat from trail rations, not a heroes feast... etc.). By the rules, VoP doesn't require him to do this, but I think it would be a good gesture on the player's part to show his intent isn't to take advantage of what Leomond's Tiny Hut provides.</p><p></p><p>Another example would be, if given the choice to stay in Leomond's Tiny Hut or a Magnificant Mansion, the ascetic would choose the Hut (again, only if the current environment was unsuitable for sleeping in). And yes, I am sure someone could come up with a reason why it would be prudent to stay in the Mansion over the Hut. And so long as the intent isn't to find a loophole, I'd probably allow it.</p><p></p><p>There are many examples and situations that one can conjure up to put VoP to the test. When it comes down to it, so long as the player isn't blatantly trying to find a loophole, and is willing to "give a little" (for role play sake)... I as a DM would be willing to "give a little" as well, when these situations arise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RigaMortus, post: 1680619, member: 1077"] I think an ascetic can use consumeables (potions, food, fuel for a fire) w/o breaking his Vow. He can't own any, but he can beg for them. I also think intent has a lot to do with it. If your intent is to find a loophole and get the maximum use/benefit out of something, you are probably breaking the vow. If the player was willing to "give a little" (for roleplay reasons), I as the DM would "give a little". For example, if the current area was not safe enough to sleep in, I'd allow the ascetic to sleep in a Leomund's Tiny Hut provided he use the least amount of provisions necessary (sleep on the floor, not a bed... eat from trail rations, not a heroes feast... etc.). By the rules, VoP doesn't require him to do this, but I think it would be a good gesture on the player's part to show his intent isn't to take advantage of what Leomond's Tiny Hut provides. Another example would be, if given the choice to stay in Leomond's Tiny Hut or a Magnificant Mansion, the ascetic would choose the Hut (again, only if the current environment was unsuitable for sleeping in). And yes, I am sure someone could come up with a reason why it would be prudent to stay in the Mansion over the Hut. And so long as the intent isn't to find a loophole, I'd probably allow it. There are many examples and situations that one can conjure up to put VoP to the test. When it comes down to it, so long as the player isn't blatantly trying to find a loophole, and is willing to "give a little" (for role play sake)... I as a DM would be willing to "give a little" as well, when these situations arise. [/QUOTE]
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