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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Skade" data-source="post: 1190907" data-attributes="member: 3320">Dictionaries do not exist to give the full definition of literary terms, only the barest essence of a thing, but yeah, basically erotica and pornography exist to arouse sexual desire.  What is missing from those definitions is the means in which it is accomplished.  This is all really subjective, as anything in literature is, but generally erotica deals in the psychology, and the deeper roots of sexual desire.  It is not simply a story about sex, but an exploration of the human sexual core.  If one were to read Erica Jong or Anais Nin it would hardly be comparable to either Harlequin Romances or Penthouse forum.  Its a different creation altogether.I've pretty well stayed out of the whole debate on this book, but I guess its time to chime in.  I can't imagine having any use for this book in my games in the least.  It does not offend me, but I do find it most amusing.  Or rather I did.  I'm dissapointed now that it has become almost entirely fetish from what I have seen, and really is not all that great at what it does in that aspect at all.  I have romance in my games, I have even had a game session or two where the act itself was key to my story, but I have never felt the need for rules expressing the subject.  Everything I needed was already built into the system (in this case WW) but had it not been there I would have winged it.This book seems to be aimed at those who want a little role-play *wink* in their role-play.  There are a lot of people out there who do this, more than some might think.  If they want this book, great, but I see no need for it outside of those circles.  As to the hype - it killed it for me more than any other detail ever could.  I'm not saying anything new here, but I think it should be stressed so that it is known not only to Valar but to any other publisher who considers such tactics.  The book was pimped on the world in a almost literal sense.  It was flashed and forced and whipped out sensationally, and all it did was manage to make it look cheap and tawdry.  Maybe it is a great product, I can't muster enough interest to really read all the preview material, but right now it looks like the sort of thing I would be ashamed to have on my shelf.  To clarify this point, I own erotica, I have a great many friends in the festish scene, I own Mapplethorpe even (and that is freaky) and I would not want this on my shelf.  It seems to manage to do neither erotica, nor gaming well.  Respectfully,Kane</blockquote>

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