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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8388291" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>The bonus action casting rules are a bit of a hack, honestly.</p><p></p><p>They look like an attempt to add in a general rule -- "no 2 leveled spells in a turn" -- but make it in the bonus action rules instead of in the standard rules.</p><p></p><p>I mean, bonus action spells are supposed to be easier to cast. But not so much easier to cast that you can do them <strong>and</strong> a leveled spell as your action.</p><p></p><p>However, if you cast action spell, by RAW you can counter the counterspell someone cast at it. But you cannot with a bonus action spell. This doesn't make all that much sense, really.</p><p></p><p>In addition, the "I cast a spell", "I counterspell", "I counter the counterspell" is a bit of a ridiculous pattern in game. It turns counterspell into a slot tax.</p><p></p><p>To that end, I'd replace the overly complex bonus action spellcasting rules with <strong>"you cannot cast two leveled spells in the same turn"</strong> which is what I swear 90% of people pretend or think it says anyhow. (This also makes Fighter 2 not a huge boost to high level spellcasters, which I think is a good thing.)</p><p></p><p>Now, "I cast a spell", "I counterspell" doesn't get "and I counter the counterspell".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8388291, member: 72555"] The bonus action casting rules are a bit of a hack, honestly. They look like an attempt to add in a general rule -- "no 2 leveled spells in a turn" -- but make it in the bonus action rules instead of in the standard rules. I mean, bonus action spells are supposed to be easier to cast. But not so much easier to cast that you can do them [b]and[/b] a leveled spell as your action. However, if you cast action spell, by RAW you can counter the counterspell someone cast at it. But you cannot with a bonus action spell. This doesn't make all that much sense, really. In addition, the "I cast a spell", "I counterspell", "I counter the counterspell" is a bit of a ridiculous pattern in game. It turns counterspell into a slot tax. To that end, I'd replace the overly complex bonus action spellcasting rules with [b]"you cannot cast two leveled spells in the same turn"[/b] which is what I swear 90% of people pretend or think it says anyhow. (This also makes Fighter 2 not a huge boost to high level spellcasters, which I think is a good thing.) Now, "I cast a spell", "I counterspell" doesn't get "and I counter the counterspell". [/QUOTE]
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