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<blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 7039715" data-attributes="member: 6802765"><p>You can cast reactions on your turn just fine if the trigger occurs. <em>Counterspell</em> is commonly used to counter another <em>Counterspell</em>, for example, and <em>Shield</em> is commonly used to defend against opportunity attacks. So if the RAI was indeed that you can't cast two leveled spells on the same turn, the RAW completely fails because it doesn't forbid leveled spells cast as a reaction.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, you're mischaracterizing Li Shenron, who said that: "The consequential RAI is IMHO that there should never be 2 non-cantrip (leveled) spells cast in the same round with normal combat rules".</p><p></p><p>Second, these are hardly corner cases. Land druids, for example, often want to cast Shillelagh and a leveled spell on the same turn, but RAW they can't due to the limitation on bonus action spells. Under Li Shenron's opinion of RAI, land druids <em>should </em>be able to do so because Shillelagh is a cantrip. So if they're right about the RAI, the RAW doesn't match.</p><p></p><p>Third, you absolutely can cast reaction spells on your own turn. That's the whole reason you can counterspell a counterspell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Shillelagh isn't a leveled spell, it's a cantrip, so Li Shenron's RAI would permit this combination.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Incorrect. You might well want to Counterspell the enemy who is trying to Counterspell your fireball. Also, under Li Shenron's RAI, this shouldn't be allowed, even though RAW permits it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above regarding Shillelagh and reactions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Li Shenron suggested Action Surge as an <em>intended </em>way to get around the limitation on casting two leveled spells in the same turn. But the rules don't permit that if you also cast a bonus action spell. So with Action Surge, RAW you can cast Fireball twice, but you can't cast Shillelagh and Fireball once. That result doesn't match Li Shenron's opinion of the RAI, under which <em>both </em>combinations should be permitted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xetheral, post: 7039715, member: 6802765"] You can cast reactions on your turn just fine if the trigger occurs. [I]Counterspell[/I] is commonly used to counter another [I]Counterspell[/I], for example, and [I]Shield[/I] is commonly used to defend against opportunity attacks. So if the RAI was indeed that you can't cast two leveled spells on the same turn, the RAW completely fails because it doesn't forbid leveled spells cast as a reaction. First, you're mischaracterizing Li Shenron, who said that: "The consequential RAI is IMHO that there should never be 2 non-cantrip (leveled) spells cast in the same round with normal combat rules". Second, these are hardly corner cases. Land druids, for example, often want to cast Shillelagh and a leveled spell on the same turn, but RAW they can't due to the limitation on bonus action spells. Under Li Shenron's opinion of RAI, land druids [I]should [/I]be able to do so because Shillelagh is a cantrip. So if they're right about the RAI, the RAW doesn't match. Third, you absolutely can cast reaction spells on your own turn. That's the whole reason you can counterspell a counterspell. Shillelagh isn't a leveled spell, it's a cantrip, so Li Shenron's RAI would permit this combination. Incorrect. You might well want to Counterspell the enemy who is trying to Counterspell your fireball. Also, under Li Shenron's RAI, this shouldn't be allowed, even though RAW permits it. See above regarding Shillelagh and reactions. Li Shenron suggested Action Surge as an [I]intended [/I]way to get around the limitation on casting two leveled spells in the same turn. But the rules don't permit that if you also cast a bonus action spell. So with Action Surge, RAW you can cast Fireball twice, but you can't cast Shillelagh and Fireball once. That result doesn't match Li Shenron's opinion of the RAI, under which [I]both [/I]combinations should be permitted. [/QUOTE]
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