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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jurph" data-source="post: 4871623" data-attributes="member: 84577">As a DM I would be willing to entertain a proposal that a crit on a non-damaging hit might do something other than add an extra die of damage.  Bull Rush, for example, might allow the player an optional extra square of push (a really good push), and something that knocks the target prone might also tack on "dazed" (he got knocked over and hit his head).  Your DM will probably want to rule on a case-by-case basis, and I'd have your DM sign off on any additional effects you want to house-rule into your high-crit build before combat begins.  I don't think any amount of finagling is going to get you a roll of the damage dice for an attack that doesn't otherwise include a damage calculation.I think the PHB sidebar is pretty clear that if a critical hit earns the player the right to have damage calculated, then it also earns the extra damage dice.  I would even go so far as to say that if the damage calculation results in a zero (elemental damage that is resisted, for example) the very act of starting a damage calculation still earns the player the right to roll the extra dice.</blockquote>