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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9152083" data-attributes="member: 18">Bastions are interesting, and show yes, WotC have listened some feedback, but it's pretty damn silly that they're designed so each PC has their own separate Bastion. They openly acknowledge some PCs might not want them, then they go ahead and yes absolutely penalize those PCs for not engaging with them. Sigh.This is really bizarrely perverse design.If you know some players won't want to engage with it, you can't penalize them for not engaging with it! That's silly thing to do! Why?Secondly, I've never come across a group of PCs who wanted multiple bases. This is whole things seems to be founded on the idea that each PC will have a separate base. 34 years of D&amp;D tells me, no, they will not want that. At most one PC played by a &quot;difficult&quot; or &quot;special&quot; player (usually a Rogue or Wizard) will have a separate base. Yet, again, unless I missed something (and maybe I did), there's no way to have a shared base.The system is also frankly overcomplicated and fiddlesome in a way that will drive away maybe the majority of less &quot;rules serious&quot; players, which is ironic, because it has huge conceptual appeal to the most &quot;rules casual&quot; and RP-centric players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9152083, member: 18"] Bastions are interesting, and show yes, WotC have listened some feedback, but it's pretty damn silly that they're designed so each PC has their own separate Bastion. They openly acknowledge some PCs might not want them, then they go ahead and yes absolutely penalize those PCs for not engaging with them. Sigh. This is really bizarrely perverse design. If you know some players won't want to engage with it, you can't penalize them for not engaging with it! That's silly thing to do! Why? Secondly, I've never come across a group of PCs who wanted multiple bases. This is whole things seems to be founded on the idea that each PC will have a separate base. 34 years of D&D tells me, no, they will not want that. At most one PC played by a "difficult" or "special" player (usually a Rogue or Wizard) will have a separate base. Yet, again, unless I missed something (and maybe I did), there's no way to have a shared base. The system is also frankly overcomplicated and fiddlesome in a way that will drive away maybe the majority of less "rules serious" players, which is ironic, because it has huge conceptual appeal to the most "rules casual" and RP-centric players. [/QUOTE]

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