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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3408511" data-attributes="member: 29014">I believe that Mark of Stygia is the only feat that leads to that effect (okay, I guess if you think Two-Weapon Fighting is 'off-the-wall', then I can't help you), and a decent Bard would have given the same bonus (he almost never got the 2d6 cold damage from the Mark because it requires a Swift action, and he didn't have one to spare usually thanks to a Boost).  I'm also perplexed as to why allowing a feat usually meant for Lawful Evil characters to a Lawful Neutral character is any change in power at all (unless the character was also using things that couldn't be used by Evil characters, then I could see your point, but he isn't.  He could be Lawful Evil and be doing the exact same things he is doing right now).Also, I don't consider him evidence that Swordsages are overpowered.  He is evidence that you can make a powerful single-discipline intiator.  Better evidence is the White Raven only Warblade (which is actually still overpowered if you don't nerf Tactics and Warmaster's Charge) or the Leaping Dragon Attack master with Tiger, but that's more evidence that certain manoeuvres are badly-balanced.If I was one of the people who dismissed Bo9S as overpowered and didn't want to work with it, I wouldn't be having this conversation.  I do think that it needs to be tinkered with carefully before it is acceptable in my game, and I also like the flavour of having only one school (I make the player think about where they are getting their power, rather than using the blah default "Everyone can learn all these martial arts schools" flavour--so for instance, the normal Desert Wind Swordsage was of a desert race touched by sand and had an innate power to control sand and heat, whereas the icy Desert Wind Swordsage got his powers directly from Levistus, still trapped in the ice in Stygia (a nice fit, since Levistus's preferred fighting style is similar to the Desert Wind) )</blockquote>

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