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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 814817" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>I've thought long and hard about this one... and if the mods feel it is in poor taste, they can delete it.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps it is "Mature" because it will detail what priests REALLY do with their young converts. *drum kick*</p><p></p><p>Not really all that funny, but hope you see what I'm getting at... perhaps in dealing with the good that men do, it also details the evils that can be inflicted in the name of good - the Crusades spring to mind - and how the righteous try to avoid such pitfalls.</p><p></p><p>Dealing with subjects like "goodness" and "faith" is likely to touch a nerve when they deal with the "deeper aspects" of religious worship... like, say, dealing with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - who had multiple wives (I use this as an example because it doesn't call out any particular modern religion). Usually, multiple wives are thought of as "harems" and "decadent pleasures" at best - how could a man of faith such as these possibly engage in such an "immoral" practice?</p><p></p><p>For good or ill, taking a serious stab at deep religious convictions (even archetypal ones represented across a litany of religious faiths) will be as controversial and requiring every bit as much maturity - perhaps more - than the Book of Vile Darkness.</p><p></p><p>Subjects that might well be covered:</p><p></p><p>*Theophagy (Belief in the literal eating of one's God during sacrament/eucharist - as opposed to a symbolic eating - currently practiced among several Christian sects)</p><p></p><p>*Polygamy (Multiple wives - few Western sects currently practice this - no jokes, please, as the most "infamous," the Mormons, haven't practiced this for over a century and threads that mention polygamy always seem to get derailed)</p><p></p><p>*Nature, Origin, and Journey of the Soul (How does it journey to "heaven" after life? What does it ultimately become - an angel or something else? Or is it reincarnated? Can it be destroyed - current D&D canon says, "certain monsters can 'eat' souls" - is that offensive/truly possible?)</p><p></p><p>*Circumcision (Some might call it "mutilation," yet it remains an important physical token of a spiritual covenant in some faiths)</p><p></p><p>*Nature of "Heaven" (Is it angels on clouds with harps? An oasis filled with nothing but scantily clad young virgins? More or less the same as earth but without sickness, pain, mean people, and beer?)</p><p></p><p>*Total Celibacy ('Nuff said)</p><p></p><p>All of these traditions - and more - are not specific to a single religion, which is why I felt safe listing them - I'm NOT looking to spark a discussion on what the "True Way" is in any of these cases... just pointing out that "here are some archetypal spiritual beliefs that are controversial enough to require a mature attitude in discussion.</p><p></p><p>So could this book reasonably need a mature label? I think that if it gets into deep philosophical discussion of some of these points, yes.</p><p></p><p>However, if it's anything like the BoVD, its analogue to "Vile Stuff is Bodily Fluids, Piercings, and Boobies" will be something along the lines of "Good Stuff is Disneyized Picket Fences with Birdies that Sing Along with Beautiful Virtuous Princesses, Marshmallow Pies with no calories that nourish you for years at a time, and a dress code akin to No Skin Showing Anywhere but past the wrists, above the neck, and below the ankles - and not even that much for the ladies". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 814817, member: 2013"] I've thought long and hard about this one... and if the mods feel it is in poor taste, they can delete it. Perhaps it is "Mature" because it will detail what priests REALLY do with their young converts. *drum kick* Not really all that funny, but hope you see what I'm getting at... perhaps in dealing with the good that men do, it also details the evils that can be inflicted in the name of good - the Crusades spring to mind - and how the righteous try to avoid such pitfalls. Dealing with subjects like "goodness" and "faith" is likely to touch a nerve when they deal with the "deeper aspects" of religious worship... like, say, dealing with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - who had multiple wives (I use this as an example because it doesn't call out any particular modern religion). Usually, multiple wives are thought of as "harems" and "decadent pleasures" at best - how could a man of faith such as these possibly engage in such an "immoral" practice? For good or ill, taking a serious stab at deep religious convictions (even archetypal ones represented across a litany of religious faiths) will be as controversial and requiring every bit as much maturity - perhaps more - than the Book of Vile Darkness. Subjects that might well be covered: *Theophagy (Belief in the literal eating of one's God during sacrament/eucharist - as opposed to a symbolic eating - currently practiced among several Christian sects) *Polygamy (Multiple wives - few Western sects currently practice this - no jokes, please, as the most "infamous," the Mormons, haven't practiced this for over a century and threads that mention polygamy always seem to get derailed) *Nature, Origin, and Journey of the Soul (How does it journey to "heaven" after life? What does it ultimately become - an angel or something else? Or is it reincarnated? Can it be destroyed - current D&D canon says, "certain monsters can 'eat' souls" - is that offensive/truly possible?) *Circumcision (Some might call it "mutilation," yet it remains an important physical token of a spiritual covenant in some faiths) *Nature of "Heaven" (Is it angels on clouds with harps? An oasis filled with nothing but scantily clad young virgins? More or less the same as earth but without sickness, pain, mean people, and beer?) *Total Celibacy ('Nuff said) All of these traditions - and more - are not specific to a single religion, which is why I felt safe listing them - I'm NOT looking to spark a discussion on what the "True Way" is in any of these cases... just pointing out that "here are some archetypal spiritual beliefs that are controversial enough to require a mature attitude in discussion. So could this book reasonably need a mature label? I think that if it gets into deep philosophical discussion of some of these points, yes. However, if it's anything like the BoVD, its analogue to "Vile Stuff is Bodily Fluids, Piercings, and Boobies" will be something along the lines of "Good Stuff is Disneyized Picket Fences with Birdies that Sing Along with Beautiful Virtuous Princesses, Marshmallow Pies with no calories that nourish you for years at a time, and a dress code akin to No Skin Showing Anywhere but past the wrists, above the neck, and below the ankles - and not even that much for the ladies". :D --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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