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<blockquote data-quote="Dozen" data-source="post: 5992201" data-attributes="member: 6698275"><p>I said 'Schizophrenia is an exception'. That means it's not part of what I was talking about. The theory Kingius presents is interesting, though; it's not impossible, but I hope it's not a mind control byproduct. Freakish!</p><p></p><p>Sociopathy is still only a problem within a society, as weird as that sounds. Though not only in ours, but pretty much all of them, save for maybe the Abyss of D&D? But again, maybe not even there. If there were literally no expectations of him or is expected to do what he plans to anyway, a sociopath would have an easy time. That happening is a microscopic possibility, but still doesn't make my point less valid.</p><p></p><p>Finally something we agree on!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Yes, all of these are exactly as you said. People with most personality disorders are also such extremites. Histrionics are attention cravers and can exaggerate to no end, Dependants are extremely clingy, Narcissists are extremely, well, narcissistic, and the list goes on, possibly touching ones that are less obvious like Schizotypal, but maybe we can deduct that later on.</p><p></p><p>Don't misunderstand though. I'm not trying to blame society. Well, not anymore. There was a now distant time in my life(I refer to it today as my 'Emo Era') when I blamed all of my problems on others and refused to cope with them out of spite. You can guess how that turned out. Now I'm sensible enough to know that while society has made it's own mistakes, I'm still the odd one out even if I don't like it, and going 'waaaah nobody likes me' won't change anything.</p><p></p><p>O-kay<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> I guess I've made my share of misunderstandings. So when you said 'IRL, the average Joe can't maintain a top speed sprint for a minute', you didn't mean Run(x4)? Sorry, man. And I was so cocky about it too... Run(x4) with a speed of 30 feet per round is supposedly the equalient of 12 mph or 19-20 kmph, as per the SRD.</p><p>But Run(x4) and (x3) the ones you can maintain for a round/Con score without a check, so what's sprint then?</p><p>None taken. I'm not saying someone with a PD is any good of an adventurer. I just want a chance. You can play an Adept or a Commoner if you want, and as a DM I can set up appropriate challenges for you to solve. You can still play a Schizophrenic, a Maniac(not that they're any playable as of now)... but not someone with PDs. Why am I worse off than these? Than everyone else? It's just not fair. </p><p>Personal issues aside: Saying insanity is unplayable is essentially saying 'an insane person is nonfunctional'(I know you didn't say it, don't point it out). That's not true most of the time, and PCs are supposed to be exceptionally powerful beings, just like you said. With the PC factor, a madman still should be an exceptionally good madman. If the sane PCs are the cream of normal folk, insane PCs should be the cream of abnormal folk. The average crazy person can manage out there; it naturally follows the best and brightest of them manage even better. We could change Insanity in-game to a sort of power damper or handicap instead of a shackle which it definitely is not, so PCs as well as NPCs can have it. I'd say a disorder should nerf any class down a whole tier or two, or impede progress like now, but not so unsolvably. Harsh, but not unplayable by any means.</p><p>I tell you what. I'll focus on the game mechanics for now, at least until I aquired enough info. I'll post them here, we balance them, and then playtest them in a campaign where we apply them to NPCs, and to PCs as well, if you got a liking for one. Think that's a viable solution?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dozen, post: 5992201, member: 6698275"] I said 'Schizophrenia is an exception'. That means it's not part of what I was talking about. The theory Kingius presents is interesting, though; it's not impossible, but I hope it's not a mind control byproduct. Freakish! Sociopathy is still only a problem within a society, as weird as that sounds. Though not only in ours, but pretty much all of them, save for maybe the Abyss of D&D? But again, maybe not even there. If there were literally no expectations of him or is expected to do what he plans to anyway, a sociopath would have an easy time. That happening is a microscopic possibility, but still doesn't make my point less valid. Finally something we agree on!:D Yes, all of these are exactly as you said. People with most personality disorders are also such extremites. Histrionics are attention cravers and can exaggerate to no end, Dependants are extremely clingy, Narcissists are extremely, well, narcissistic, and the list goes on, possibly touching ones that are less obvious like Schizotypal, but maybe we can deduct that later on. Don't misunderstand though. I'm not trying to blame society. Well, not anymore. There was a now distant time in my life(I refer to it today as my 'Emo Era') when I blamed all of my problems on others and refused to cope with them out of spite. You can guess how that turned out. Now I'm sensible enough to know that while society has made it's own mistakes, I'm still the odd one out even if I don't like it, and going 'waaaah nobody likes me' won't change anything. O-kay:confused: I guess I've made my share of misunderstandings. So when you said 'IRL, the average Joe can't maintain a top speed sprint for a minute', you didn't mean Run(x4)? Sorry, man. And I was so cocky about it too... Run(x4) with a speed of 30 feet per round is supposedly the equalient of 12 mph or 19-20 kmph, as per the SRD. But Run(x4) and (x3) the ones you can maintain for a round/Con score without a check, so what's sprint then? None taken. I'm not saying someone with a PD is any good of an adventurer. I just want a chance. You can play an Adept or a Commoner if you want, and as a DM I can set up appropriate challenges for you to solve. You can still play a Schizophrenic, a Maniac(not that they're any playable as of now)... but not someone with PDs. Why am I worse off than these? Than everyone else? It's just not fair. Personal issues aside: Saying insanity is unplayable is essentially saying 'an insane person is nonfunctional'(I know you didn't say it, don't point it out). That's not true most of the time, and PCs are supposed to be exceptionally powerful beings, just like you said. With the PC factor, a madman still should be an exceptionally good madman. If the sane PCs are the cream of normal folk, insane PCs should be the cream of abnormal folk. The average crazy person can manage out there; it naturally follows the best and brightest of them manage even better. We could change Insanity in-game to a sort of power damper or handicap instead of a shackle which it definitely is not, so PCs as well as NPCs can have it. I'd say a disorder should nerf any class down a whole tier or two, or impede progress like now, but not so unsolvably. Harsh, but not unplayable by any means. I tell you what. I'll focus on the game mechanics for now, at least until I aquired enough info. I'll post them here, we balance them, and then playtest them in a campaign where we apply them to NPCs, and to PCs as well, if you got a liking for one. Think that's a viable solution? [/QUOTE]
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