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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 3043819" data-attributes="member: 8158"><p>Indeed, fairness is my objective. But comparing the damage output of a warrior class that gets d10 or d12 hit dice and a host of other cool combat abilities to a 9th level spell cast by a class that gets 1d4 HD, terrible BAB, arcane spell failure in armor, and basically sells the farm to get a solid damage output, and saying "that's equivalent" does not strike me at all as fair. </p><p></p><p>EDIT--Oh freaking hell, I almost forgot to point out that the caster is burning a slot that he only gets one of per day, while Nine-Sword munchkin gets all his slots back between battles--or even in the middle of a battle. For the warblade, it's almost literally a snap of the fingers. So, another overwhelming benefit that blows away the notion of fairness.</p><p></p><p>Sweet Christmas, so broken. Disciplines pack the sheer power of an arcanist spell with the omnipresent utility of a feat.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Kinda disappointing, Mouse, since I had placed some faith in your judgment. See above.</p><p></p><p>Like many folks, I'm just boggled at how the Warblade made the editing cut with its bevy of Int-bonus class features, maximum hit dice, generous skill points, bonus feats, and over-the-top damage output every four rounds out of five or so. If anyone was looking for the cavalier of 3e, look no farther. </p><p></p><p>Ah well, it's one less book for me to buy, and as Book of Excessive Deeds is the only other book for me to flat-out ban, I guess WotC's is still batting a damn good average.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felon, post: 3043819, member: 8158"] Indeed, fairness is my objective. But comparing the damage output of a warrior class that gets d10 or d12 hit dice and a host of other cool combat abilities to a 9th level spell cast by a class that gets 1d4 HD, terrible BAB, arcane spell failure in armor, and basically sells the farm to get a solid damage output, and saying "that's equivalent" does not strike me at all as fair. EDIT--Oh freaking hell, I almost forgot to point out that the caster is burning a slot that he only gets one of per day, while Nine-Sword munchkin gets all his slots back between battles--or even in the middle of a battle. For the warblade, it's almost literally a snap of the fingers. So, another overwhelming benefit that blows away the notion of fairness. Sweet Christmas, so broken. Disciplines pack the sheer power of an arcanist spell with the omnipresent utility of a feat. Kinda disappointing, Mouse, since I had placed some faith in your judgment. See above. Like many folks, I'm just boggled at how the Warblade made the editing cut with its bevy of Int-bonus class features, maximum hit dice, generous skill points, bonus feats, and over-the-top damage output every four rounds out of five or so. If anyone was looking for the cavalier of 3e, look no farther. Ah well, it's one less book for me to buy, and as Book of Excessive Deeds is the only other book for me to flat-out ban, I guess WotC's is still batting a damn good average. [/QUOTE]
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