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<blockquote data-quote="Dragonblade" data-source="post: 3044227" data-attributes="member: 2804"><p>I have the book and find it PERFECTLY balanced. In fact, there has been some discussion in my group that Sword Sage only getting 1 maneuver back per full round action is underpowered. We have discussed the Sword Sage getting all maneuvers back as a Full Round action.</p><p></p><p>Some of you have said that you think its unbalanced for a high level Warblade to be able to do 100 points of damage with a 9th level maneuver only available to 17th level characters. An ability that can be done once per encounter unless time is taken to recover the maneuver. At best it can be done once every other round.</p><p></p><p>How is that more overpowered than a mage who can have all sorts of spells active before a battle even starts? How is that comparable to a 17th level sorcerer who can drop 16 MAXIMIZED fireballs one right after another? Or a 17th level sorcerer casting Disjunction? "Sorry party of adventurers, all of your magic items and buffs are now GONE!"</p><p></p><p>Not to mention versatility. An arcane caster of comparable level can Fly, Teleport, Shapechange, blast armies apart, turn invisible, turn incorporeal, create impenetrable walls of force, etc. </p><p></p><p>But no, a warrior, who has to actually get in close to his opponents and potentially get worked by multiple baddies, or simply get his ass torn apart by a powerful monster, gets a comparable attack and suddenly everything is broken.</p><p></p><p>Heck even a 20th level Rogue with the right feat can basically do 10d6 Sneak Attack damage EVERY freaking round. A 20th level Fighter previously couldn't do that even with all their feats. How is it balanced that at 20th level a Fighter isn't even the biggest melee damage dealer? </p><p></p><p>Heck with one feat (Arcane Strike) and one spell (Tenser's Transformation), a sorcerer or wizard character can even perform in melee combat MORE capably than a comparable Fighter PC! And thats without even mentioning other buffs they could have cast prior to combat even starting like Stoneskin.</p><p></p><p>The fact is that warriors were severely UNDERPOWERED before Tome of Battle. This book goes a long way in restoring balance that should have been there from the beginning.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dragonblade, post: 3044227, member: 2804"] I have the book and find it PERFECTLY balanced. In fact, there has been some discussion in my group that Sword Sage only getting 1 maneuver back per full round action is underpowered. We have discussed the Sword Sage getting all maneuvers back as a Full Round action. Some of you have said that you think its unbalanced for a high level Warblade to be able to do 100 points of damage with a 9th level maneuver only available to 17th level characters. An ability that can be done once per encounter unless time is taken to recover the maneuver. At best it can be done once every other round. How is that more overpowered than a mage who can have all sorts of spells active before a battle even starts? How is that comparable to a 17th level sorcerer who can drop 16 MAXIMIZED fireballs one right after another? Or a 17th level sorcerer casting Disjunction? "Sorry party of adventurers, all of your magic items and buffs are now GONE!" Not to mention versatility. An arcane caster of comparable level can Fly, Teleport, Shapechange, blast armies apart, turn invisible, turn incorporeal, create impenetrable walls of force, etc. But no, a warrior, who has to actually get in close to his opponents and potentially get worked by multiple baddies, or simply get his ass torn apart by a powerful monster, gets a comparable attack and suddenly everything is broken. Heck even a 20th level Rogue with the right feat can basically do 10d6 Sneak Attack damage EVERY freaking round. A 20th level Fighter previously couldn't do that even with all their feats. How is it balanced that at 20th level a Fighter isn't even the biggest melee damage dealer? Heck with one feat (Arcane Strike) and one spell (Tenser's Transformation), a sorcerer or wizard character can even perform in melee combat MORE capably than a comparable Fighter PC! And thats without even mentioning other buffs they could have cast prior to combat even starting like Stoneskin. The fact is that warriors were severely UNDERPOWERED before Tome of Battle. This book goes a long way in restoring balance that should have been there from the beginning. [/QUOTE]
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