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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 3624366" data-attributes="member: 1288">Having seen the warblade and crusader in play, I have to say that they're not nearly as &quot;overpowered&quot; as they seem on first glance. Yes, they're somewhat more potent than the core fighter in many respects*, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.It's important to remember that the vast majority of strikes, and many of the other maneuvers, require a standard action to use. Thus, there will be many occasions where the warblade and crusader are doing more damage per attack, but aren't getting multiple attacks where the fighter and barbarian are.*(Note that I said &quot;core fighter.&quot; Once you allow some of the newer martial feats, such as those found in PHB2, the fighter ratchets up the combat ability and damage output. For all that people complain about the fighter being underpowered, I have never seen anyone deal out as much damage as a high-level fighter with the right feat choices.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 3624366, member: 1288"] Having seen the warblade and crusader in play, I have to say that they're not nearly as "overpowered" as they seem on first glance. Yes, they're somewhat more potent than the core fighter in many respects*, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's important to remember that the vast majority of strikes, and many of the other maneuvers, require a standard action to use. Thus, there will be many occasions where the warblade and crusader are doing more damage per attack, but aren't getting multiple attacks where the fighter and barbarian are. *(Note that I said "core fighter." Once you allow some of the newer martial feats, such as those found in [i]PHB2[/i], the fighter ratchets up the combat ability and damage output. For all that people complain about the fighter being underpowered, I have never seen [i]anyone[/i] deal out as much damage as a high-level fighter with the right feat choices.) [/QUOTE]

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