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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2752549" data-attributes="member: 20805">I completely agree with wuyanei, DnD leveling mechanics should not be twinked in the way the OP suggests.... and thought there was rules somewhere for libraries of book referenced on this board not too long ago. Basically the way I work it is that by referencing a book/library you can: A> use the knoweldge skill untrained B> gain a circumstance bonus to your check based on the quality of the book/library C> gain synergy bonus to a Craft check.. assuming the quality of the book/library is high enough and accessable while Crafting D> Take 10, although the time for the check is in months instead of days. Generally this means DC's of 15 to 20 are attainable after a number of months of research.     { a random thought of a Feat of Researcher allowing faster use of this ability } Note.. none of this is while adventuring.. Its all while researching much in the way Gandolf is depicted in the recent movie adaptation. The size of the book/library sets the number of days you need to use it, and usually has a higher circumstance bonus and/or larger number of knowledge skills available. In this fashion, libraries become valuable assets, coveted and improved upon by nobles and scholars. As most of my players are not into book keeping, these rules have stayed at plot point level.. with no regard to how much it cost to create/build such a library. My players do know that if they go to the Morgrave University they can, for a fee, spend time in the library and learn about Xendrix's ancient cultures.  Example plot based Library:  Morgrave University, Research time, 1D10+4 days.    Knowledge: Xendric, +3    Knowledge: History, +5    Knowledge: Local (Sharn) +5 If some one could dig up the previous thread.. or refine what we have here into a better version, I would be happy to *yoink* it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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