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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 7164523" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Combining Magical Effects explicitly states "he or she doesn't get to roll two bonus die". If he only can roll one bonus die, there is no rule there that says that he rolls both bonus die and uses the more potent result.</p><p></p><p>The most potent effect text refers to the same spell where one of the spells itself is generally more potent (like Booming Blade where one PC is level one and another is level seven, the seventh level PC's Booming Blade is more potent since it averages more damage).</p><p></p><p>Most potent does not mean that you roll both effects and then see which one is better. Or at least, that is what the Bless example appears to indicate. It is not explicit one way or another. It doesn't say "he or she gets to roll both dice and pick the better result" nor does it say "he or she doesn't get to roll both dice, only one spell effect is in effect (i.e do not trigger both spells and take the better of the two dice)", nor does it say "he or she doesn't get to roll both dice and add them together".</p><p></p><p>Given that it doesn't explicitly state any of these interpretations of what that sentence means, the only thing we have to go on is "he or she DOESN'T get to roll both dice" means that two sets of dice are not rolled. Period. The sentence indicates that two dice are not rolled. Not for Bless. Not for Booming Blade. Not for more potent effect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, if one caster loses concentration, then both same spells are up since the Combining Magical Effects spell explicitly says that their durations overlap.</p><p></p><p>If the Bless example indicated anything about both spells triggering or the effects of both spells occurring, then the one interpretation would have a leg to stand on. But if Bless doesn't have both spells trigger (as best we can tell), then neither does any other triggering spell. The only way to interpret it the other way is to allow the "more potent effect" rule to trump the "doesn't get to roll two bonus dice" rule and actually allow Bless to roll two die and take the better of the two. Otherwise, that interpretation is being inconsistent.</p><p></p><p>If the alternative interpretation doesn't allow both Bless triggers to fire off, it shouldn't allow two triggers from a duplicate of any other spell to occur either. Especially because the trigger portion of a spell IS part of the effect portion of a spell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 7164523, member: 2011"] Combining Magical Effects explicitly states "he or she doesn't get to roll two bonus die". If he only can roll one bonus die, there is no rule there that says that he rolls both bonus die and uses the more potent result. The most potent effect text refers to the same spell where one of the spells itself is generally more potent (like Booming Blade where one PC is level one and another is level seven, the seventh level PC's Booming Blade is more potent since it averages more damage). Most potent does not mean that you roll both effects and then see which one is better. Or at least, that is what the Bless example appears to indicate. It is not explicit one way or another. It doesn't say "he or she gets to roll both dice and pick the better result" nor does it say "he or she doesn't get to roll both dice, only one spell effect is in effect (i.e do not trigger both spells and take the better of the two dice)", nor does it say "he or she doesn't get to roll both dice and add them together". Given that it doesn't explicitly state any of these interpretations of what that sentence means, the only thing we have to go on is "he or she DOESN'T get to roll both dice" means that two sets of dice are not rolled. Period. The sentence indicates that two dice are not rolled. Not for Bless. Not for Booming Blade. Not for more potent effect. Yes, if one caster loses concentration, then both same spells are up since the Combining Magical Effects spell explicitly says that their durations overlap. If the Bless example indicated anything about both spells triggering or the effects of both spells occurring, then the one interpretation would have a leg to stand on. But if Bless doesn't have both spells trigger (as best we can tell), then neither does any other triggering spell. The only way to interpret it the other way is to allow the "more potent effect" rule to trump the "doesn't get to roll two bonus dice" rule and actually allow Bless to roll two die and take the better of the two. Otherwise, that interpretation is being inconsistent. If the alternative interpretation doesn't allow both Bless triggers to fire off, it shouldn't allow two triggers from a duplicate of any other spell to occur either. Especially because the trigger portion of a spell IS part of the effect portion of a spell. [/QUOTE]
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