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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storme" data-source="post: 3986818" data-attributes="member: 56172">Spell Enhancer (SC) (swift action cast!!! so it can be cast the same round as your followup spell)Increases CL by 2, and DC by 1Mystic Surge (PH2)Increases CL by  1, and DC by 2Bestow Curse and Crushing Despair are must have debuffs.  Each can give -4 to saves.  If you use both, that's -8!Ray of....All of these that debuff stats have NO SAVE.  You just need to make a ranged touch attack.  Ray of Entropy, Ray of Stupidity, Ray of Clumsiness (for those pesky high reflex saves), and my favorite, Touch of Idiocy (1d6 penalty to intelligence, wisdom and charisma).  Most of these are around level 2, so I enjoy quickening or maximizing them!Headband of Intelligence (to increase your spells and DC)or Cloak of Charisma if you are a SorcererRobe of the Archmagi adds +2 to your DC.Lets say you are fighting some badguy with high saves (most monsters have good saves...only us PCs are hurting....).  Shoot him with a quickened Ray of Clumsiness (1d6+1 per two CL (max of +5) dexterity damage no save), followed quickly by a Ray of Entropy (1d6 penalty to str, dex, con).  Next round, cast spell enhancer (swift action), followed by a lightning bolt.  The target should be getting around -6 or so on his saves, and your DC is increased by one.  Better yet, if you quicken Mystic Surge, before casting your lightning bolt, you'll get +2 DC.Still, I find the best way to get around saves is to use spells that don't allow any.I'm in a campaign where most of our enemies are monks with cloaks of spell resistance 23, I've become fairly accustomed to what works and what doesn't.  Generally, I just launch Touch of Idiocy and Ray of Stupidity.  I find its easier and quicker to tear down someones intelligence to zero than it is to go through all their HPs.  Like how we one shotted the 27 HD Bulette.Storme</blockquote>

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