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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1821593" data-attributes="member: 1465">I don't agree with Rogues being better in social skills compared to Bards. Social skills are basically Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information and Sense Motive. If you max them out (which is not necessarily a must) the bard still has another skill to max, assuming he obviously maxed Perform.A Rogue with the same Int has therefore 4 skills left to max out, 3 more than the bard, but that means to necessarily sacrifice other typical rogue skills among Hide/Move Silently, Search/Disable Device/Open Lock/Sleigh of Hand, or Tumble.I don't think those more skill points are a big advantage if you want a social rogue. And since the bard is going to get a much larger use of his Charisma, it is in a way more expensive for a rogue to have a higher bonus in those social skills.On the other hand, obviously any bard (or anyone else!) would like to have more skill points  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> it's just that I don't think those more skill points would make him better in society, he'll spend them in something else.</blockquote>