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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 1821679" data-attributes="member: 2167">Personally I think the Bard's biggest problrm is that it is not well defined. What is a Bard?  What is the Bard class trying to be?A bard is technically, simply a lyrical poet, or one of an ancient Celtic order of minstrel poets who composed and recited verses celebrating the legendary exploits of chieftains and heroes. Basically a performer.So what does this mean in a D&D setting? Well there are many forms of baridc performers we have seen emerge over the years: the swashbuckler, the jongleur, the jester, the game/riddle master, the skald, the marshal, etc. What is the bard trying to be?  Where are the classic celtic roots to the feel of the class?The problem with the core class is that it has no real definition. INstead of being a "Bard" the class has attempted more to be a "Jack-of-all-Trades." It is part Fighter, part Wizard, part Cleric, and part Rogue. Sorry - but for me this doesnt work.  It attempts to be a little of everything but accels at nothing.  The Bardic abilities, as they exist, do little to define them as a class in my opinion.I personally thingk that to truly make the Bard an interesting and balanced class, would require a core re-write. A basic idiology along this line was the Marshal from the Mini's HB.  A new variant on the concept of a Charismatic Leader character - a specfic form of Bard but with new mechanics.Just some rambling humble thoughts from one who would see the Bard re-written and reformed into a more fitting image of the poet/performer/celtic tale teller.</blockquote>

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