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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 751393" data-attributes="member: 1134">I always thought that was a dumb rule.&nbsp; So a empowered enlarged cone of cold does x1.5 damage out to its normal range and normal damage from its normal range to x2 its range.Or a empowered enalarged fieball does x1.5 damage if it detonates somewhere in its normal ranged but doesn't if it detonates further down the line.Heck with this lame ruleing can you actually quicken metamagiced spells.&nbsp; i mean the base spell is quickened but the exta range, duration, silent, empowered etc part of it isn't.&nbsp; So what the base spell is a free aciton the rest of the meta-magiced part is a standard action.&nbsp; It adds to many wonky questions.I think they got their panties in a bunch worrying about the single effect of a maximized empowered what's it.(5 levels higher so who give a hoot IMO) and instead of dealing with the specific occurance they made a general rule that is lame.&nbsp; They could of more easily said once something is maximized it no longer is variabe so it can't be empowered.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 751393, member: 1134"] I always thought that was a dumb rule. So a empowered enlarged cone of cold does x1.5 damage out to its normal range and normal damage from its normal range to x2 its range. Or a empowered enalarged fieball does x1.5 damage if it detonates somewhere in its normal ranged but doesn't if it detonates further down the line. Heck with this lame ruleing can you actually quicken metamagiced spells. i mean the base spell is quickened but the exta range, duration, silent, empowered etc part of it isn't. So what the base spell is a free aciton the rest of the meta-magiced part is a standard action. It adds to many wonky questions. I think they got their panties in a bunch worrying about the single effect of a maximized empowered what's it.(5 levels higher so who give a hoot IMO) and instead of dealing with the specific occurance they made a general rule that is lame. They could of more easily said once something is maximized it no longer is variabe so it can't be empowered. [/QUOTE]

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