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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1033077" data-attributes="member: 4134">So did they: +10ft of movement: 3000+ 5 bonus to jump:&nbsp; 2500--------------------------------Price:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5500Note that the +10 ft of movement usually give you +4 to your jump checks, so you actually get +9 to jump. And +10 speed is far from pointless, even if you have 30 ft to begin with. Come on. You can't tell me that you don't like a single change. I don't believe that you prefer the old harm spell (no save, all hp but 1d4 gone). You cannot really be serious when you say the old ranger was a better class then the new one. I'm sure you don't mean that the new jump skill (which is far easier to play) is worse than the old. I won't hear that you don't like the combat section, which is far clearer than the old. You cannot tell me that you don't like the new format of the spell lists, with all spells with expensive components marked, or that spell chains are now together (I always hated to have to look up several spell descriptions on several pages).You may tell me that you don't like the majority of the changes, but not that you don't like any of the changes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 1033077, member: 4134"] So did they: +10ft of movement: 3000 + 5 bonus to jump: 2500 -------------------------------- Price: 5500 Note that the +10 ft of movement usually give you +4 to your jump checks, so you actually get +9 to jump. And +10 speed is far from pointless, even if you have 30 ft to begin with. Come on. You can't tell me that you don't like a single change. I don't believe that you prefer the old harm spell (no save, all hp but 1d4 gone). You cannot really be serious when you say the old ranger was a better class then the new one. I'm sure you don't mean that the new jump skill (which is far easier to play) is worse than the old. I won't hear that you don't like the combat section, which is far clearer than the old. You cannot tell me that you don't like the new format of the spell lists, with all spells with expensive components marked, or that spell chains are now together (I always hated to have to look up several spell descriptions on several pages). You may tell me that you don't like the majority of the changes, but not that you don't like any of the changes. [/QUOTE]

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