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<blockquote data-quote="Tales and Chronicles" data-source="post: 8059610" data-attributes="member: 6871653"><p>I mean, at level 1 your character can already be ''someone'': at level 1 you can be a known guild member, knight, sage, noble, veteran soldier, bounty hunter etc</p><p></p><p>Even if they are low-level in their ''adventuring career'', does not mean they are nobodies. Even when you look at the NPC statblocks, you average Noble, court wizard, veteran are pretty low CR. There's no reason even your low level PC with the appropriate background could not be part of the big players of the setting. </p><p></p><p>That's what I find strange when I see people, when new APs come out, arguing that ''it makes no senses to hire the party to deal with X when they are just a bunch of nobodies''. PCs do not walk around with their level written on their foreheads: their backgrounds says they are somewhat known and functional members of the setting even if they are not known as professional adventurers and monster killing machines. The NPCs of the adventure doesnt hire ''a 1st level rogue'' they hire Bob the Sage, known to have the potential skillset to be a adventurer. </p><p></p><p>Now, mechanically they are still pretty weak, but in-setting they are on-pair with many other inhabitants, unless your setting has every known mage be an archmage and fighter be a warlord. Unless the adventure calls for it, I do not start my adventurers at the level to go on rat killing quests; even at 1st level, you are still a competent hero. Have them face terrible and cunning foes, no need to use dumb brutes. A Ghast lurking in a abandoned house in the village, feeding the village's pets with worms harvested from ghoul corpse to mindcontrol them and luring the kids to his house to devour them, the only clue the villager have is a weird stench coming from Fido once it comes back to the house after the disappearance of little Timy can be an interesting low-level encounter that does not use low-intelligence mob.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tales and Chronicles, post: 8059610, member: 6871653"] I mean, at level 1 your character can already be ''someone'': at level 1 you can be a known guild member, knight, sage, noble, veteran soldier, bounty hunter etc Even if they are low-level in their ''adventuring career'', does not mean they are nobodies. Even when you look at the NPC statblocks, you average Noble, court wizard, veteran are pretty low CR. There's no reason even your low level PC with the appropriate background could not be part of the big players of the setting. That's what I find strange when I see people, when new APs come out, arguing that ''it makes no senses to hire the party to deal with X when they are just a bunch of nobodies''. PCs do not walk around with their level written on their foreheads: their backgrounds says they are somewhat known and functional members of the setting even if they are not known as professional adventurers and monster killing machines. The NPCs of the adventure doesnt hire ''a 1st level rogue'' they hire Bob the Sage, known to have the potential skillset to be a adventurer. Now, mechanically they are still pretty weak, but in-setting they are on-pair with many other inhabitants, unless your setting has every known mage be an archmage and fighter be a warlord. Unless the adventure calls for it, I do not start my adventurers at the level to go on rat killing quests; even at 1st level, you are still a competent hero. Have them face terrible and cunning foes, no need to use dumb brutes. A Ghast lurking in a abandoned house in the village, feeding the village's pets with worms harvested from ghoul corpse to mindcontrol them and luring the kids to his house to devour them, the only clue the villager have is a weird stench coming from Fido once it comes back to the house after the disappearance of little Timy can be an interesting low-level encounter that does not use low-intelligence mob. [/QUOTE]
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