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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 5462308" data-attributes="member: 5202">My wife and I joined a 3.5 group several years back and they were all very nice when we met them.&nbsp; The DM was brand new to RPGs, but he was an actor at the local U and was very excited.&nbsp; I tried to convince people we should start at 3rd or so b/c I get really bored when my wizard casts his one spell and then has to use a crossbow all night.&nbsp; One of the players insisted that we &quot;would never really know our characters if we didn't start at 1st level&quot; and convinced the DM on this point.&nbsp; I had countered with &quot;I'll know my character, I'll decide what their background is.&nbsp; Done.&quot; heh.&nbsp; So we start at level 1.One and a half YEARS of reasonably steady weekly play later, we still aren't even level 3.&nbsp; We do tons and tons of roleplaying w/not a ton of fighting and there is almost no compensation.&nbsp; Like, ONE person at the table would get a whopping 50XP bonus as a roleplaying award.&nbsp; Eventually my wife started making excuses not to show and the group actually sent one of the members over to our house to dump us heh.&nbsp; My wife and I were talking about that group last night and she said she almost said &quot;Honey in case you haven't noticed, we dumped you guys already&quot;.&nbsp; We just couldn't come up with a nice way of putting how soul crushingly boring and unfun things were and it was our only gaming outlet at the time.&nbsp; Part of why I haven't gotten to roleplay much in the last 5 years.Thankfully we just joined 2 groups last week and while one of them is very flightly and we might not put up with it.&nbsp; 75 minute late on start time, another 30 before people settled down...on a 3 1/2 hr gaming slot.&nbsp; I chalked it up to first session of a game and a couple of people had shown up w/incomplete characters, which didn't help.&nbsp; Add in all the tangents and distractions...we're giving it 2 more sessions.&nbsp; With a 20+ minute drive each way, it has to be worth our time investment, esp for a Tuesday night w/friends watching our 2 kids.&nbsp; The Saturday game runs from 2-9 or 10 and that group is very focused.&nbsp; Hell we played 2-8 this week (minus dinner) and got thru 3 encounters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 5462308, member: 5202"] My wife and I joined a 3.5 group several years back and they were all very nice when we met them. The DM was brand new to RPGs, but he was an actor at the local U and was very excited. I tried to convince people we should start at 3rd or so b/c I get really bored when my wizard casts his one spell and then has to use a crossbow all night. One of the players insisted that we "would never really know our characters if we didn't start at 1st level" and convinced the DM on this point. I had countered with "I'll know my character, I'll decide what their background is. Done." heh. So we start at level 1. One and a half YEARS of reasonably steady weekly play later, we still aren't even level 3. We do tons and tons of roleplaying w/not a ton of fighting and there is almost no compensation. Like, ONE person at the table would get a whopping 50XP bonus as a roleplaying award. Eventually my wife started making excuses not to show and the group actually sent one of the members over to our house to dump us heh. My wife and I were talking about that group last night and she said she almost said "Honey in case you haven't noticed, we dumped you guys already". We just couldn't come up with a nice way of putting how soul crushingly boring and unfun things were and it was our only gaming outlet at the time. Part of why I haven't gotten to roleplay much in the last 5 years. Thankfully we just joined 2 groups last week and while one of them is very flightly and we might not put up with it. 75 minute late on start time, another 30 before people settled down...on a 3 1/2 hr gaming slot. I chalked it up to first session of a game and a couple of people had shown up w/incomplete characters, which didn't help. Add in all the tangents and distractions...we're giving it 2 more sessions. With a 20+ minute drive each way, it has to be worth our time investment, esp for a Tuesday night w/friends watching our 2 kids. The Saturday game runs from 2-9 or 10 and that group is very focused. Hell we played 2-8 this week (minus dinner) and got thru 3 encounters. [/QUOTE]

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