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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7758200" data-attributes="member: 177">Look at the language you chose.Climax - the most intense, exciting, or important point of something; a culmination or apex.So, be definition, the climax is going to be a big, intense, exciting *something*.  When you are in a heroic fiction genre, where the stakes are likely life and death, given human experience you think resorting to violence is *unnatural*?  Real people will resort to violence over mere money, dude.  They do it *EVERY DAY*, all over the world.  So, yeah, it is kind of natural.Judgmental, much?    But, consider for a moment - if they are so vacuous... do you think they actually *created* the pattern?  No, they didn't.  They inherited it from most other heroic fiction - yes, from Beowulf, and Conan, and John Carter of Mars, and Buck Rogers, and most of the other adventure fiction out there.  So, when you say "we just get it from" what you are really noting is a long line of inheritance over decades and centuries.No, they don't.  But consider the difficulty of creating a tense, exciting scene that actively uses the skills of a half-dozen people that isn't a fight.  Yes, your story can end in a dramatic, emotional discussion scene, but those very frequently and quickly focus on just a couple of characters.  And we generally want everyone at the table to take an active (and hopefully equally important) part in that climax scene.  Broadly, we want each player to be able to think of the game as their own PCs story.  Now, remember that most of us (GMs or players) are not Nebula Award caliber writers.  We are just folks.  Getting that excitement into a social scene, and spreading it around equally, is very hard.  In an action scene, it isn't hard at all.Now, as an aside... how much do *you* like to be chided, and told the things you like (and how you run your games) are "vacuous"?  Because, even though you didn't say that explicitly, though you keep saying "not that there is anything wrong with that" you are still using the supposedly empty action movies up as the exemplar, that that sets up the accusation by implication and analogy.Now, this is a common rhetorical technique, but is it effective?  Are there other ways you could approach the topic that wouldn't put you in a direct confrontation with what others do?</blockquote>

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