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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7758242" data-attributes="member: 177">Strawman alert!!!&nbsp; Did I say &quot;the only way to involve all players is X&quot;?&nbsp; No, I didn't.&nbsp; Do not overstate my position, and then use that overstatement for melodramatics.&nbsp; I will *not* sit still for that nonsense.&nbsp; If you aren't interested in arguing my actual position, we are done.&nbsp; Do I make myself clear?Interesting.In Tony Stark the Marvel Cinematic Universe contains one of the most accurate and accessible depictions of PTSD ever presented in movies.&nbsp; Funny how something &quot;vacuous&quot; could offer representation and a framework for discussion of a highly misunderstood issue in mental health today....Methinks one often sees what one wants to see.&nbsp; Sure, many action movies aren't deathless art.&nbsp; But you know what?&nbsp; Most of our games aren't deathless art either.&nbsp; A quick bit of web searching suggests that Romance &amp; Erotica is the largest selling genre of fiction in the US, outselling any other genre by about a factor of two.&nbsp; Yes, Bodice Rippers don't end in combat scenes, but I'm going to guess that the desire to run tabletop games of them is small.&nbsp; Which is to say that yes, the world of fiction overall is much bigger - but the vast majority of it may not be particularly good for tabletop gaming. Here you go again.You know, on the internet, there's a natural tendency for discussions to drive to polar opposites - and in large part it is because of statements like these.&nbsp; The hyperbolic &quot;all&quot;.&nbsp; Very dramatic.&nbsp; But also not descriptive of any position taken by anyone here.&nbsp; I return to the initial statement of this post.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7758242, member: 177"] Strawman alert!!! Did I say "the only way to involve all players is X"? No, I didn't. Do not overstate my position, and then use that overstatement for melodramatics. I will *not* sit still for that nonsense. If you aren't interested in arguing my actual position, we are done. Do I make myself clear? Interesting. In Tony Stark the Marvel Cinematic Universe contains one of the most accurate and accessible depictions of PTSD ever presented in movies. Funny how something "vacuous" could offer representation and a framework for discussion of a highly misunderstood issue in mental health today.... Methinks one often sees what one wants to see. Sure, many action movies aren't deathless art. But you know what? Most of our games aren't deathless art either. A quick bit of web searching suggests that Romance & Erotica is the largest selling genre of fiction in the US, outselling any other genre by about a factor of two. Yes, Bodice Rippers don't end in combat scenes, but I'm going to guess that the desire to run tabletop games of them is small. Which is to say that yes, the world of fiction overall is much bigger - but the vast majority of it may not be particularly good for tabletop gaming. Here you go again. You know, on the internet, there's a natural tendency for discussions to drive to polar opposites - and in large part it is because of statements like these. The hyperbolic "all". Very dramatic. But also not descriptive of any position taken by anyone here. I return to the initial statement of this post. [/QUOTE]

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