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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 28739" data-attributes="member: 474">Quite an interesting group, I'll say.While I'm not ready for membership, I'd be glad to help with the organization when I'm able.  The real challenge is to use a dragon with low CR to challenge (and possibly defeat) the party.  Run properly, a dragon with CR 1 less then the average level can kill them all, if you're a sadistic, munchkin DM.I submit the following to the members of BADD:Fiendish juvenile white dragon: CR 7; Medium-size Dragon (Cold); HD 12d12+24; hp 102; Init +0; Spd 60 ft, fly 200 ft (poor), swim 60 ft, burrow 30 ft; AC 21 (+11 natural); Melee bite +15 (1d8+3), 2 claws +13 (1d6+1), 2 wings +13 (1d4+1); SA breath weapon, smite good; SQ blindsight, cold subtype, DR 10/+3, immunities, keen senses, icewalking, fire resistance 20, SR 24; AL CE; SV Fort +10, Ref +8, Will +8; Str 17, Dex 10, Con 15, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 8.Skills and Feats: Bluff +11, Listen +12, Search +11, Sense Motive +12, Spot +12; Hover, Multiattack, Power Attack, Cleave.SA - Breath Weapon (Su): Cone of cold, 30 feet long, every 1d4 rounds; damage 4d6, Reflex half DC 18.SA - Spell-Like Abilities: 3/day - fog cloud.SA - Smite Good (Su): Once per day, this dragon adds +12 damage to a single melee attack.SQ - Blindsight (Ex): Dragons can ascertain creatures by nonvisual means (mostly hearing and scent, but also by noticing vibrations and other environmental clues); this dragon's range is 120 feet.SQ - Keen Senses (Ex): Dragons can see four times as well humans in low-light conditions and twice as well in normal light. This one also has darkvision with a range of 400 feet.SQ - Immunities (Ex): Immune to sleep and paralysis.SQ - Icewalking (Ex): This ability works like spider climb, but the surfaces must be icy. It is always in effect.SQ - Cold Subtype (Ex): Cold immunity, double damage from fire except on a successful save.Fire resistance 20 really helps the dragon to avoid the near-instant kill of coordinated fire attacks (fireball and flame strike or a double firebal).  You can remove cleave and replace it with either Improved Initiative (or Lightning Reflexes), if you're so inclined; I think that the benefit of tearing apart the rogue or wizard and still continuing the attack is worthwhile for the sheer effect.Here's a sample combat:Dragon: Wakes from sleep due to the noise of the party 400 feet away.  Closes his eyes and pretends to sleep again.Group (pre-buffed): Sneaks up to melee range, wizard 100 feet behind the rest.Wizard: Double-fireballs the "sleeping" dragon (haste) as the rest of the party delays.Dragon: Takes no damage, either from SR (24!) or fire resistance (combined with a fair chance to save).  Flies past the party to the wizard, biting (Power Attack?).Rogue: Shoots at the dragon and closes 30 feetCleric: Runs up to the dragonFighter: Shoots at the dragon and closes 30 feetDragon: Takes no damage due to DR.Wizard: Moves back 5 feet and casts phantasmal killer and enervation.Dragon: Minimally affected by the two previous spells (SR & save vs. phantasmal killer), takes a full attack on the poor wizard, killing it in three attacks (Cleaving into the cleric).  The dragon proceeds to attack the cleric with both wings, using a smite good on one.Party: Closes on dragon and damages it (to some degree).Dragon: Attacks the already-wounded cleric, then moves 20 feet into the air and Hovers (obscuring the party's vision).. . .</blockquote>

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