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<blockquote data-quote="Mortaneus" data-source="post: 319679" data-attributes="member: 485"><p>My purpose behind posting this thread was to generate intelligent discussion. I had hoped to get involved in a discussion regarding the perceived flaws (and possible merits) of several publications that I personally greatly disliked.</p><p></p><p>I was also hoping to hear other people's opinions on products that they felt were far below par.</p><p></p><p>So far, quite a few of the posts in this thread are of that nature, and I'm enjoying them immensely.</p><p></p><p>Let's please keep this a discussion of poster's opinions regarding the products, not a discussion of people's right to have and express those opinions. I've seen too many threads closed down because of that very reason. As for this being in poor taste, I consider it no more so than anything else on these boards. If that, however, is your opinion, then I can respect that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway, back on topic, I guess the reason that sword and fist struck me as being so bad was the sheer lack of quality control. WotC had been graced with the most popular rpg system in gaming history, and, up till that point, they were working wonders with it. The Players Handbook was inspired. The DMG was a work of art. The Monster Manual was an example of what had been missing for all those years.</p><p></p><p>The work WotC was doing on D&D was turning into an epic symphony. Then Sword and Fist came out, and struck one heck of a sour note. True, it has been errata'd beyond belief since then, but it still set a really bad tone for the classbooks, a problem which was compounded by such things as the speed enhancement for armor, and the sheer blandness of Song and Silence, and only finally truly remedied by Masters of the Wild. </p><p></p><p>The hero builders guidebook was pure fluff, in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>Psion: I haven't picked up Enemies & Allies, nor the Stronghold Builder's guide. They didn't strike me as being all that useful. What are people's opinions on these two? Are people actually using them? If so, in what way?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mortaneus, post: 319679, member: 485"] My purpose behind posting this thread was to generate intelligent discussion. I had hoped to get involved in a discussion regarding the perceived flaws (and possible merits) of several publications that I personally greatly disliked. I was also hoping to hear other people's opinions on products that they felt were far below par. So far, quite a few of the posts in this thread are of that nature, and I'm enjoying them immensely. Let's please keep this a discussion of poster's opinions regarding the products, not a discussion of people's right to have and express those opinions. I've seen too many threads closed down because of that very reason. As for this being in poor taste, I consider it no more so than anything else on these boards. If that, however, is your opinion, then I can respect that. Anyway, back on topic, I guess the reason that sword and fist struck me as being so bad was the sheer lack of quality control. WotC had been graced with the most popular rpg system in gaming history, and, up till that point, they were working wonders with it. The Players Handbook was inspired. The DMG was a work of art. The Monster Manual was an example of what had been missing for all those years. The work WotC was doing on D&D was turning into an epic symphony. Then Sword and Fist came out, and struck one heck of a sour note. True, it has been errata'd beyond belief since then, but it still set a really bad tone for the classbooks, a problem which was compounded by such things as the speed enhancement for armor, and the sheer blandness of Song and Silence, and only finally truly remedied by Masters of the Wild. The hero builders guidebook was pure fluff, in my opinion. Psion: I haven't picked up Enemies & Allies, nor the Stronghold Builder's guide. They didn't strike me as being all that useful. What are people's opinions on these two? Are people actually using them? If so, in what way? [/QUOTE]
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